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Subject: Re: computer cheating print article,,,in a word....

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:21:54 04/03/04

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On April 03, 2004 at 16:48:04, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On April 03, 2004 at 16:21:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 03, 2004 at 15:55:50, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On April 03, 2004 at 11:55:47, steven blincoe wrote:
>>>
>>>>i have seen player's  (using a computer and pre-move client)essay forth 7-10
>>>>moves per 1 recorded second on the clock
>>>>the moves come at you like an automatic rifle
>>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>Do you consider pre-move to be a cheat? I have used it for a long time and never
>>>considered it a cheat (it didn't even enter my mind). I usually use Winboard and
>>>the pre-move "click-click" approach to moving (where you click the piece, then
>>>the destination square, instead of dragging the piece to the destination
>>>square). It is kind of like pondering for the computer. I will have a move in
>>>mind that I want to play, I click the piece that I'm considering moving, then
>>>place my mouse over the destination square, and if my opponent allows me to play
>>>it, one click of the mouse, and I move instantly. One time my opponent started
>>>1. e4, and when I responded with 1...e5 instantly he aborted the game and said,
>>>"a computer!" I guess he never heard of pre-move :)
>>
>>
>>Does it mean that you planned to play 1...e5 against every move including 1.d4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, pre-move is really a
>>>function of the GUI, not the server.
>>
>>I think that the server should not allow pre-move.
>>I think that it is simple to do it if the server ignores every information that
>>you send when it is the move of the opponent except resigning the game.
>>
>>I do not think that it is cheating but it is not the game that I play when I
>>play over the board game.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I do not understand this "premove" but assume it is a way for a HUMAN to
>automatically enter his/her opening repertoire in much the same way that chess
>computers do.  If it's OK for a chess-playing program to have a memorized
>opening repertoire which is played automatically, then why would it not be OK
>for a human to do that?

In a tournament game I cannot play the opening move in 0 seconds even if I
remember them before the game because it takes time to move the pieces.

It is not fair to have different situation in chess servers.

Uri



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