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Subject: Re: which 6 man tablebases are the most important?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:48:00 04/04/04

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On April 02, 2004 at 23:17:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:

DIEP raw compressed format :

28-03-2004  02:15           218.108 kqqqkp_w.dtb.emd
28-03-2004  02:14           134.072 kqqqkp_b.dtb.emd

Same tables in nalimov format:
-rw-r--r--    1 500      500      650212520 Sep 11  2003   kqqqkp.nbb.emd
-rw-r--r--    1 500      500      115294214 Sep 11  2003   kqqqkp.nbw.emd

Factor 1000 compression or so here.






>On April 02, 2004 at 19:02:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2004 at 17:56:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 02, 2004 at 16:22:19, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thank you very much for your detailed answers!
>>>>
>>>>When you say Diep already runs in windows mode, does that mean that it runs DOS
>>>>or "real" windows mode? (sorry about not being clear on that in my original
>>>>post)
>>>>
>>>>10GB for all the 3+4+5+6 tb's would be a HUGE success as would 20GB of course!
>>>
>>>It is also "vaporware".  3-4-5-6 tables will _not_ fit into 10 gigabytes.
>>
>>For how much are we going to bet that w/d/l tables 3-6 men fit in 10GB?
>>
>>It's a bit of work i'll admit it as all 5 vs 1 still must get generated which is
>>what i'll do after world champs 2004, provided i can get a machine from someone
>>to do it.
>>
>>Compressing those is pretty easy though. It's all wins or illegal positions
>>(also wins in diep's definition).
>>
>>In total it's 510 EGTB's, a bit less than 1020 files (KRPKRP for example is 1
>>file and not 2).
>>
>
>Talk is cheap.  You have been reporting on how much smaller your tables are, how
>much faster you can generate them, how much better you compress them, how much
>less memory your generator requires, since Bruce started generating tables when
>everyone had started to use the Edwards tables.  You have yet to show anybody
>anything _real_.  I doubt you ever will.  Of course, you will probably continue
>to talk about them for the next 10 years...
>
>Meanwhile using Eugene's tables which _do_ exist...
>
>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am not implying that we all have a similar standard when it comes to giving
>>>>our work away, but people who know me fairly well, knows that if they need
>>>>anything, that be music, webdesign, painting, ideas etc.all they need to do is
>>>>ask and i will provide it for free if i have the time. Not too long ago someone
>>>>saw one of my paintings (he lives in USA) and really liked one particular
>>>>painting and i sent it to him free of charge, - shipping charges.
>>>>I can say that giving without asking anything in return is _extremely_
>>>>liberating, but if that dosn't do it for you, i respect that too.
>>>
>>>
>>>Some will _never_ grasp that concept...
>>
>>You get paid to browse a bit and let the 80s revive in classrooms.
>>
>>Not that i ever would like to be in your shoes, but that has other reasons.
>
>Yes, such as you would likely be unable to complete one of my courses, since I
>don't give high marks for vaporware, handwaving, and other such similar
>nonsense...
>
>Of course that didn't stop you from asking hundreds of email questions when you
>started to think about parallel search.  Your credibility continues to
>plummet...



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