Author: steven blincoe
Date: 09:52:40 04/05/04
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Hi Bob > >Although the referenced article is intrinsically interesting, I wonder whether >or not it is appropriate to this forum. This forum, CCC, was set up, >presumably, to make a home for people interested in creating and testing chess >software. no i dont think so the charter mentions all aspect's of computer chess the fact that most of the postings are about chess programming is more a reflection of current interest in the chess world rather then why the forum was created most of my postings are about old dedicated chess computers i never read or post anything about PC Chess programming indeed i know very little about PC chess or to be honest do i have any interest in it do you consider my postings about old chess computers"off topic"? Steve > >One could reasonably argue that discussion of chess servers IS appropriate since >chess programs being produced by members of CCC are tested on chess servers. >Indeed, opening repertoires are developed for chess-playing programs by letting >them play games, with "opening learning" enabled, to optimize the opening >repertoires for the specific programs. Indeed, there are even computer chess >tournaments being conducted on chess servers as this is being written! So, >discussion of chess servers is appropriate at CCC. > >People who create chess-playing programs should be interested in how their >products are being used. If a programmer does not wish his program to be used >in a certain way or for a certain purpose, then the programmer may be able to >modify his/her program to preclude the undesired uses. This may or may not be >possible or practical, but deserves consideration. > >People who write chess programs, such as Blitzin, have not yet discussed their >programs here at CCC insofar as I recall. Nevertheless, chess programs for use >on chess servers such as Blitzin should, it seems to me, be a valid topic of >discussion here at CCC if a programmer of such a program chose to post bulletins >about it here. > >Technical discussions of the technical interractions between user chess software >and chess server chess software should be allowed here at CCC IMHO. > >The behaviors labeled "computer cheating" do fit into the general topic of the >above paragraph. If discussed in a rational responsible manner, there should be >no problem with such discussions assuming that they were aimed at identifying >and solving problems of interest to chess computer programmers "of the CCC >kind." > >There is a real problem with discussion of "cheating" at CCC. The term >"cheating" is a "hot button" word [like "Damn!"] which illicits irrational >emotional responses from otherwise sensible responsible individuals. I suspect >that most members of CCC would much prefer to keep emotional, moralistic, >political, religious, and otherwise objectionable topics out of CCC and relegate >them to CTF. [Almost anything goes at CTF.] > >So far as I can tell, the "computer cheating" thread has contained exactly ZERO >technical content and serves no useful purpose here at CCC. My advice to those >contributing such articles is "Shape up or ship out!" We do not need rabble >rousers here at CCC. > >IMHO. > >Bob D.
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