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Subject: Re: Best software for analysis

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 17:37:03 04/07/04

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On April 07, 2004 at 18:15:00, Alan Grotier wrote:

>
>  Thanks.You answered my question.Very interesting.
>
>  But here is a thought:having multiple engine analysis of a position
>  assumes one is capable of determining which amongst them has the better
>  understanding of the position.

Well, you "kept the conversation alive" by offering another thought! : )

With Shredder or Fritz you can, in infinite analysis mode [allowing sufficient
time for the findings to be sufficiently credible], set the program to not only
show the move it considers best but also second best, third best, etc.  Also,
the evaluation score is shown for each.  If you find that several moves produce
similar position evaluation scores, then an exhaustive analysis would have you
look at all of them.  Essentially, what would do is enter these moves into the
scoresheet and then let the engine examine each in turn.  This process can
produce a small tree of analysis lines.  It is important to continue this
process several moves in order to overcome the "horizon effect" problems.
Sometimes it happens that an engine sees a move quite differently after
examining subsequent moves.  This just scratches the surface of the
proceedures/methods you can use to improve the analyses.

With multiple engines, what you are accomplishing [essentially] is identifying
additional moves to be examined.  Sometimes one engine, such as Junior, will
find moves not "seen" by the other engines, assuming you are having only a few
moves displayed at one time.  [It is also possible to set the program to display
ALL of the legal moves but you may have to wait almost forever for the search
depths to reach reasonable depths.]  Generally, using multi-engine you would use
several engines to examine each move.  Using too many engines can cause this
task to become so large as to be overwhelming and not worth the effort.

The database software serves several useful purposes.  [I will leave it to
Pawlak to elaborate if he wishes to do so.]  Not least of these useful tasks
which can be performed using database software is identification of moves played
by other people.  A thorough analysis would consider each of these too.
Obviously, openings and early middlegames are what I'm talking about.  Advanced
methods can be used for endgames, which is probably more than you wanted to
know.

Bob D.



>
>  I know I don't.I finally do when I play the game.And usually lose to
>  computers.
>
>  You know,I have a better "hit" rate when I play humans.........Alan

Pugilism is bad.  You should not hit people.



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