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Subject: Re: questions?

Author: martin fierz

Date: 07:49:55 04/08/04

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On April 08, 2004 at 09:38:01, Daniel Shawul wrote:

>On April 08, 2004 at 09:14:05, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On April 08, 2004 at 07:10:29, Daniel Shawul wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>Here are some questions
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>5.How do i measre my move ordering performance?Is it by counting only fail highs
>>>of the first moves searched. It seems to me doing this measures performance of
>>>hashtable since the hash move is the first searched. Or is it counting fail
>>>highs of first x moves??
>>
>>it's not measuring hashtable performance. you have more positions without hash
>>moves than with hash moves...
>
> ok that's right. What I am getting is 16.7% fail highs at the first move
>searched. I have heard many people report 80-90% move ordering efficiency.
>Are they counting fail highs at 2nd,3rd,... moves too? My efficiency seems to
>be too low compared to what i do in ordering.

16.7% is horrible - if you count the same way as everybody does: you compute
FH-ratio as 100* (#fail highs on first move) / (total fail highs). so you don't
count all cases where you don't fail high, which is sensible since you search
all moves there anyway - it doesn't matter how you order there.

the number as defined above should be ~90% or better, or your move ordering is
poor. if that doesn't sound right to you, remember that this does NOT mean that
you find the best move first in 90% of all cases, only that you find "a good
move" first in 90% of all cases - often many moves lead to cutoffs.

cheers
  martin


>
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin



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