Author: Dan Ellwein
Date: 21:47:55 04/11/04
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On April 12, 2004 at 00:09:48, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 11, 2004 at 13:52:59, Tom Likens wrote: > >>On April 10, 2004 at 21:53:17, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 10, 2004 at 15:55:17, Tom Likens wrote: >>>> >>>>I'm not sure where I come down on the bitboards vs. non-bitboard >>>>architectures. My engine is a bitboard engine, but that doesn't >>>>necessarily mean that the next one will be bitboard based. >>>> >>>>I don't believe though, that because no bitboarder has topped the >>>>SSDF list that this really constitutes any kind of proof. My strong >>>>suspicion is that if all the top commercial programmers converted >>>>over to bitboards tomorrow (yourself included) that *eventually* >>>>their new engines would again rise to the top of the SSDF. I'm >>>>beginning to suspect that creating a strong (i.e. world-class) engine >>>>involves a helluva lot more than just the basic data representation, >>>>but instead involves... >>>> >>>>1. 24/7 dedication >>>>2. A *real* way to measure progress >>>>3. A selective search strategy that works 99.99999% of the time >>>>4. Attention to about 2^64 minor details >>>>5. A failed marriage (okay, maybe this is extreme but you see the point) >>>> >>>>regards, >>>>--tom >>> >>> >>> >>>Number 5 (or something close) was the reason why Tiger has made such a progress >>>between 1997 and 1999. :) >>> >>>Number 2, seriously, is worth spending several months on it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>This has been my main focus over the past few weeks. It's become readily >>apparent to me that the improvement slope from here on up is much steeper >>and I rather not waste my time implementing features that I can't properly >>test. >> >>regards, >>--tom > > > >That's the secret of real professional chess programmers. > >When you have a good testing methodology, you do not need to be a genius >anymore. I mean you do not have to rely on your genius anymore. You just try any >strange idea and see if it works or not. All you need then is a lot of time (try >dedicating 5 computers or more to the task, and let them run 24/24) and some >cocai... I mean cafeine. :) I find that a nice, hot cup of tea and a some yogurt (yoplait) does wonders for the soul... Dan > > > > Christophe
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