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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 Native or UCI

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 07:55:29 04/12/04

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On April 12, 2004 at 06:52:32, Henrik Boye Laursen wrote:

>When installing Shredder 8 the native engine is default. If this engine is
>"hidden" via engine management to inactive engine, it's possible to install the
>UCI Shredder engine. (Located under Engines/UCI/Shredder)
>
>Hoever it seems to me, that the UCI engine has lower node speed compared to the
>native engine. In principle the two version should be the same, however does
>anyone here have an opinion on this subject ?
>
>Best Regards
>
>Henrik


     I have made the following test under Win98SE on P4 1.8/32 MB hash
     with playing level "search depth=16, no books, no permanent brain,
     after playing 1.d4" And as you can see from the results below it
     is Shredder8 UCI to be somewhat faster (23.880 kN vs 25.315 kN)
     Kurt

Utzinger - Shredder 8
rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 8: (Fritz8-GUI)

1...e6
  =  (0.03)   Tiefe: 1/1   00:00:00
1...e6
  =  (0.03)   Tiefe: 1/1   00:00:00
1...e6 2.Sf3
  ²  (0.42)   Tiefe: 2/3   00:00:00
1...e6 2.e4
  ²  (0.44)   Tiefe: 2/3   00:00:00
1...e6 2.e4 Sf6
  =  (0.05)   Tiefe: 3/7   00:00:00
1...e6 2.e4 Sf6
  =  (0.05)   Tiefe: 3/7   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sf3 e6
  =  (-0.01)   Tiefe: 3/7   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sf3 e6
  =  (-0.01)   Tiefe: 3/7   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sf3 e6 3.Sc3
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 4/6   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Sf3
  ²  (0.44)   Tiefe: 4/7   00:00:00
1...e6 2.Sc3 Sc6 3.e4
  ²  (0.43)   Tiefe: 4/8   00:00:00
1...e6 2.Sc3 Sc6 3.e4
  ²  (0.43)   Tiefe: 4/8   00:00:00
1...e6 2.Sc3 Sf6 3.Sh3 Tg8
  =  (0.18)   Tiefe: 5/9   00:00:00
1...e6 2.Sc3 Sf6 3.e4 Sc6
  =  (0.14)   Tiefe: 5/9   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.e4 Sxe4
  =  (0.13)   Tiefe: 5/9   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Sf3 Sc6
  =  (0.10)   Tiefe: 5/9   00:00:00
1...d6 2.Sc3 Sf6 3.h3 e6
  =  (0.09)   Tiefe: 5/9   00:00:00
1...d6 2.Sc3 Sf6 3.Sf3 Sc6
  =  (0.08)   Tiefe: 5/9   00:00:00
1...d6 2.Sc3 Sc6 3.Sf3 Sf6 4.e4
  ²  (0.33)   Tiefe: 6/10   00:00:00
1...d6 2.Sc3 Sc6 3.e4 Sf6 4.Lc4
  ²  (0.57)   Tiefe: 6/10   00:00:00
1...e6 2.e4 Sc6 3.Sc3 Sf6 4.Sf3
  ²  (0.56)   Tiefe: 6/10   00:00:00
1...e6 2.Sc3 Sf6 3.Sf3 Lb4 4.Se5
  ²  (0.44)   Tiefe: 6/13   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.e4 Sxe4 3.Ld2 Sxd2 4.Sxd2
  ²  (0.43)   Tiefe: 6/13   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sf3 d6 3.Sc3 Lf5 4.Lf4
  ²  (0.35)   Tiefe: 6/13   00:00:00
1...Sf6 2.Sf3 d6 3.c3 Lf5
  =  (0.10)   Tiefe: 7/9   00:00:00  13kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d6 3.e4 d5 4.f3 c6
  =  (0.08)   Tiefe: 7/12   00:00:00  16kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 e6 3.Sf3 Sc6 4.Lf4 Ld6 5.Lxd6 cxd6
  ²  (0.30)   Tiefe: 8/17   00:00:00  34kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Sf3 Lf5 4.Lf4 e6 5.e3 Sc6
  =  (0.10)   Tiefe: 9/19   00:00:00  79kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Sf3 Sc6 4.Lf4 Lg4 5.e3 Lxf3 6.gxf3 e6
  =  (0.23)   Tiefe: 10/20   00:00:00  115kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Sf3 Sc6 4.Lf4 Lf5 5.e3 e6 6.Lb5 Ld6
  =  (0.16)   Tiefe: 11/21   00:00:01  264kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Sf3 Lf5 4.Lg5 Sc6 5.e3 Tc8
  ²  (0.27)   Tiefe: 12/22   00:00:02  478kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Lf4 e6 4.e3 Lb4 5.Ld3 c5 6.Sf3 Lxc3+ 7.bxc3 c4 8.Le2 Se4
  ²  (0.28)   Tiefe: 13/29   00:00:05  1134kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Lf4 Lf5 4.e3 e6 5.Sf3 Lb4 6.Ld3 Lxd3 7.cxd3 Sc6 8.0-0 0-0
9.Tc1
  =  (0.21)   Tiefe: 14/24   00:00:12  2605kN
1...Sf6 2.Lf4 Sc6 3.Sc3 e6 4.e3 Lb4 5.Ld3 d6 6.Sge2 e5 7.dxe5 dxe5
  =  (0.19)   Tiefe: 15/29   00:00:29  6368kN
1...Sf6 2.Sc3 d5 3.Lf4 Lf5 4.e3 e6 5.Sf3 Ld6 6.Lxd6 Dxd6 7.Ld3 Lxd3 8.Se5 Sc6
  =  (0.21)   Tiefe: 16/31   00:01:28  19150kN
1...d5 2.Lf4 Lf5 3.Sf3 e6 4.e3 Sf6 5.Ld3 Lxd3 6.cxd3 Sc6 7.Db3 Lb4+ 8.Sc3 0-0
  =  (0.20)   Tiefe: 16/35   00:01:42  22292kN
1...d5 2.Lf4 Lf5 3.e3 e6 4.Ld3 Lxd3 5.Dxd3 Sc6 6.Sf3 Sxd4 7.Sxd4 Dd6 8.Lxd6
  =  (0.20)   Tiefe: 16/37   00:01:49  23880kN

(Utzinger, MyTown 12.04.2004)


Shredder 8  UCI: (Arena-GUI 1.0.3)
 1   00:00 -0.03   e6
 2-  00:00 -0.42   e6 Nf3
 2   00:00 -0.44   e6 e4
 3   00:00 -0.05   e6 e4 Nf6
 3   00:00  0.01   Nf6 Nf3 e6
 4-  00:00 -0.32   Nf6 Nf3 e6 Nc3
 4   00:00 -0.44   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3
 4   00:00 -0.43   e6 Nc3 Nc6 e4
 5+  00:00 -0.18   e6 Nc3 Nf6 Nh3 Rg8
 5   00:00 -0.14   e6 Nc3 Nf6 e4 Nc6
 5+  00:00 -0.13   Nf6 e4 Nxe4
 5   00:00 -0.10   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3 Nc6
 5+  00:00 -0.09   d6 Nc3 Nf6 h3 e6
 5   00:00 -0.08   d6 Nc3 Nf6 Nf3 Nc6
 6-  00:00 -0.33   d6 Nc3 Nc6 Nf3 Nf6 e4
 6   00:00 -0.57   d6 Nc3 Nc6 e4 Nf6 Bc4
 6+  00:00 -0.56   e6 e4 Nc6 Nc3 Nf6 Nf3
 6   00:00 -0.44   e6 Nc3 Nf6 Nf3 Bb4 Ne5
 6+  00:00 -0.43   Nf6 e4 Nxe4 Bd2 Nxd2 Nxd2
 6   00:00 -0.35   Nf6 Nf3 d6 Nc3 Bf5 Bf4
 7+  00:00 -0.10   Nf6 Nf3 d6 c3 Bf5
 7   00:00 -0.08   Nf6 Nc3 d6 e4 d5 f3 c6
 8   00:00 -0.30   Nf6 Nc3 e6 Nf3 Nc6 Bf4 Bd6 Bxd6 cxd6
 9   00:00 -0.10   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3 Bf5 Bf4 e6 e3 Nc6
10   00:00 -0.23   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3 Nc6 Bf4 Bg4 e3 Bxf3 gxf3 e6
11   00:01 -0.16   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3 Nc6 Bf4 Bf5 e3 e6 Bb5 Bd6
12   00:02 -0.27   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Nf3 Bf5 Bg5 Nc6 e3 Rc8
13   00:04 -0.28   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Bf4 e6 e3 Bb4 Bd3 c5 Nf3 Bxc3+ bxc3 c4 Be2 Ne4
14   00:11 -0.21   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Bf4 Bf5 e3 e6 Nf3 Bb4 Bd3 Bxd3 cxd3 Nc6 0-0 0-0
Rc1
15   00:28 -0.19   Nf6 Bf4 Nc6 Nc3 e6 e3 Bb4 Bd3 d6 Nge2 e5 dxe5 dxe5
16   01:27 -0.21   Nf6 Nc3 d5 Bf4 Bf5 e3 e6 Nf3 Bd6 Bxd6 Qxd6 Bd3 Bxd3 Ne5 Nc6
16+  01:42 -0.20   d5 Bf4 Bf5 Nf3 e6 e3 Nf6 Bd3 Bxd3 cxd3 Nc6 Qb3 Bb4+ Nc3 0-0
16   01:49 -0.20   d5 Bf4 Bf5 e3 e6 Bd3 Bxd3 Qxd3 Nc6 Nf3 Nxd4 Nxd4 Qd6 Bxd6
(25315kN)







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