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Subject: Re: Some new hyper-threading info.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:58:36 04/14/04

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On April 14, 2004 at 22:51:45, Slater Wold wrote:

>On April 14, 2004 at 22:49:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>I just finished some HT on / HT off tests to see how things have changed in
>>Crafty since some of the recent NUMA-related memory changes that were made.
>>
>>Point 1.  HT now speeds Crafty up between 5 and 10% max.  A year ago this was
>>30%.  What did I learn?  Nothing new.  Memory waits benefit HT.  Eugene and I
>>worked on removing several shared memory interactions which led to better cache
>>utilization, less cache invalidates (very slow) and improved performance a good
>>bit.  But at the same time, now HT doesn't have the excessive memory waits it
>>had before and so the speedup is not as good.
>>
>>Point 2.  HT now actually slows things down due to SMP overhead.  IE I lose 30%
>>per CPU, roughly, due to SMP overhead.  HT now only gives 5-10% back.  This is a
>>net loss.  I am now running my dual with HT disabled...
>>
>>More as I get more data...  Here is two data points however:
>>
>>pos1.  cpus=2 (no HT)  NPS = 2.07M  time=18.13
>>       cpus=4          NPS = 2.08M  time=28.76
>>
>>pos2.  cpus=2          NPS = 1.87M  time=58.48
>>       cpus=4          NPS = 2.01M  time=66.00
>>
>>First pos HT helps almost none in NPS, costs 10 seconds in search overhead.
>>Ugly.  Position 2 gives about 5% more nps, but again the SMP overhead washes
>>that out and there is a net loss.  I should run the speedup tests several times,
>>but the NPS numbers don't change much, and the speedup could change.  But this
>>offers enough..
>
>What were the positions?


Kopec 22 and 23.  Had a script to run them.  I actually ran all 24, but a glitch
had something else running for most of the second run so the last 3 were all
that was really usable...




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