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Subject: Re: Hard position for programs

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 08:48:26 04/16/04

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On April 15, 2004 at 10:04:27, Mihaly Szalai wrote:

>[Event "Pucarevo (zt)"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "1987.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Marjanovic, S."]
>[Black "Yilmaz, T."]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C84"]
>[WhiteElo "2505"]
>[BlackElo "2375"]
>[PlyCount "67"]
>[EventDate "1987.??.??"]
>
>{43/425} 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. O-O Be7 7. e5
>Ne4 8. Nxd4 Nxd4 9. Qxd4 Nc5 10. Nc3 Nxa4 {N} (10... O-O) 11. Qxa4 (11. Nxa4)
>11... O-O 12. Bf4 $1 (12. Be3 d5 $11) 12... b5 (12... f6 $2 13. Qc4+ {>< c7}) (
>12... d5 13. exd6 Bxd6 14. Rad1 Bd7 15. Qd4 Bxf4 16. Qxf4) 13. Qd4 Bb7 14. Rad1
>Bc6 15. Nd5 $14 {|^} Re8 16. Rd3 Bf8 (16... d6 17. exd6 (17. Nxc7 $16) 17...
>Bxd6 (17... cxd6 18. Rg3 f6 19. Bh6 g6 20. Re1 $16 {->}) 18. Rg3 Bf8 19. Bh6 $1
>$16 {->}) (16... Bxd5 17. Qxd5 d6 18. exd6 Bxd6 19. Bxd6 cxd6 20. Qxd6 $16) 17.
>Bg3 Qc8 $2 {/\ 18...Bd5 19.Qd5 d6} (17... d6 18. Nb4 (18. Bh4 dxe5 19. Qg4 Qxd5
>$1 20. Rxd5 Bxd5 $44) 18... Bxg2 19. Kxg2 c5 20. Qd5 cxb4 21. exd6 $16) 18.
>Nf6+ $1 gxf6 19. Bh4 Re6 (19... Be7 20. Qf4 $1 Qd8 21. exf6 Bf8 22. Rg3+ Kh8
>23. Qg5 $1 Bh6 24. Qxh6 Rg8 25. Rg7 Be4 26. f4 $18) 20. Rg3+ Kh8 21. Qg4 Bh6
>22. Qxe6 $3 fxe6 23. Bxf6+ Bg7 24. Rxg7 h5 (24... h6 25. Rd1 Qf8 $1 26. Rgxd7+
>Kg8 27. Rxc7 Be4 (27... Qc5 28. Rd3 Qxc2 29. Rg3+ Kf8 30. h3 $18) 28. Rdd7 $18)
>25. Rd1 Qf8 $1 26. Rg5+ $1 Kh7 27. Rxh5+ Kg6 28. Rg5+ Kf7 (28... Kh6 {/\ Qf6}
>29. Rg4 $1 Kh5 30. Rdd4 $18) 29. Rd4 Qh6 30. Rf4 $1 Qh7 31. Rfg4 Kf8 32. Rg7
>Qh8 33. Be7+ Ke8 34. Bb4 1-0
>
>Position after 17... Qc8:
>[D]r1q1rbk1/2pp1ppp/p1b5/1p1NP3/3Q4/3R2B1/PPP2PPP/5RK1 w - - 0 18
>
>18. Nf6+!

I let shredder think for 8h on this position, because i was not convinced by
short analysis that 18. Nf6 is really the best move; here's the 2 best moves
after 8h :

Analysis by Shredder 8:

1. ± (1.13): 1.Cf6+ gxf6 2.Fh4 Te6 3.Tg3+ Rh8 4.Dg4 Fh6 5.Dxe6 fxe6 6.Fxf6+ Fg7
7.Txg7 h5 8.Td1 Df8 9.Tf7+ Rg8 10.Txf8+ Txf8 11.f4 Rf7 12.Rf2 Rg6 13.g3 Rf5
14.Re3 a5 15.h3
2. = (0.25): 1.Te3 Te6 2.f4 Db7 3.f5 Tee8 4.Cf4 Da7 5.Dxa7 Txa7 6.Ff2 Tb7 7.Ch5
d6 8.e6 fxe6 9.fxe6 Fd5 10.Cf4 Fc4 11.Td1

short advantage, may be not enough to win yet ...


>
>Tactical minded people make this move much easier than chess programs. The white
>forces are promising ("this sac must be good"), however there is no mate attack
>and the brilliant queen sac four moves later would deserve another diagram.
>
>You should show it to your favourite engine. (I don't expect a long thread
>though.)
>
>Thanks
>Mihaly



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