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Subject: Re: So far all that we have seen is Draw matches against the Champs

Author: Rex

Date: 16:21:55 04/16/04

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On April 16, 2004 at 10:54:12, Stephen Ham wrote:

>On April 16, 2004 at 09:00:36, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>First it was Deep Fritz against Kramnik then Deep Junior versus Kasparov,
>>nothing but to boring draw matches. It is about time for us to see the strongest
>>chess program Shredder 8 accomplishing what Deep Blue did back in 1997 against
>>Kasparov.
>>
>>Jorge
>
>Jorge,
>
>I think that you're forgetting that the strongest engine in engine versus engine
>contests (Shredder 8) isn't, as a consequence, the strongest versus humans.
>That's why Rebel probably has the best record against humans of any engine to
>date. I've read that Crafty scores well against us too.
>

I 100% agree.  Rebel does have the best record, yet to be beaten in an offical
tourney, against a human.  The playing style is that of a human, but weak
against comp matches.  Although Rebel does play nice in long time controls
against comps.
>There's many reasons for this. For example, in engine versus engine contests, it
>seems that search speed is the most important element. But this is far less
>important against humans, since even the slowest of the top 50-engines can
>compute far faster than any human. So increasing dominance in area where engines
>are already nearly totally dominant, really adds minimal value.
>
>So if I had to bet money on which engine would most likley defeat humans, my
>money is on Rebel.
>
>Stephen



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