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Subject: Re: So far all that we have seen is drawn matches against the Champs

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 18:18:22 04/17/04

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On April 17, 2004 at 14:19:16, Mark Young wrote:


>>>It seems Mr. Ham fell for Ed's PR machine.:)

>>What..............................?
>>
>>Hey, show a bit more respect for an oldtimer, will you? :)
>>
>>Hey (2), Rebel-Yusupov (1997), hardware P2-266 Mhz (ha ha ha)
>>
>>Hey (3), Rebel-Anand (1998), hardware AMD-450 Mhz (ha ha ha)
>>
>>Hey (4), Anand in 1998 was the world's strongest blitz-player.
>>
>>Hey (5), On all 4 matches it was agreed that the winner of the match was the one
>>with the most points, regardless the time control.

>I know what was agreed in the match conditions. That is not what we are talking
>about.

>The point being you can not compare apples and oranges. Standard time controls
>with blitz. And no Anand was not the strongest Blitz-player in the world. Only
>the strongest human blitz player. Computers were stronger then and now then at
>blitz chess.

At that time? No way. I was much surprised Anand lost the blitz part, and so was
Anand, also the prediction poll showed Rebel was the underdog.

http://www.rebel.nl/predstat.htm




>>Hey (6), it made little sense those days to play on 40/2h against a GM, the
>>hardware was much to slow.
>
>Right...So for Mr. Ham to trumpet Rebel's match record with GM Yusupov and GM
>Anand as the best computer record to date was clearly wrong. As you did not even
>play standard time control games.

That was the first experiment, in those days all comps lost from GM's at 40/2h,
some programs incidently winning some games at blitz on ICC. No surprise as the
fastest hardware was a poor P2-266 in those days.



>>Hey (7), Rebel's overall performance at the AEGON tournaments of the 80's and
>>90's was best of all.
>
>Rebel was good... As you know I wrote about Rebel's success here many times. You
>even posted my comments on your web site.
>
>
>>
>>Hey (8), Rebel was the best computer in the Premiere Israel League (5½/8)
>>(1999-2000)
>>
>>Hey (9), Rebel was best computer in DEBRECEN-2000 (8½/11), 1½ points more than
>>the second rated chess program.

>>Now Mark, come up with the list of your favorite program :)

>My Favorite programs are ChessGenius for PPC, Chess Tiger 14, and Shredder 8.

>If you mean what chess program do I think plays the best chess.

No, I did not mean that, I asked for comparable lists.

Ed




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