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Subject: Re: So far all that we have seen is drawn matches against the Champs

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 04:21:47 04/18/04

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On April 17, 2004 at 22:25:26, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 17, 2004 at 21:18:22, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On April 17, 2004 at 14:19:16, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>It seems Mr. Ham fell for Ed's PR machine.:)
>>
>>>>What..............................?
>>>>
>>>>Hey, show a bit more respect for an oldtimer, will you? :)
>>>>
>>>>Hey (2), Rebel-Yusupov (1997), hardware P2-266 Mhz (ha ha ha)
>>>>
>>>>Hey (3), Rebel-Anand (1998), hardware AMD-450 Mhz (ha ha ha)
>>>>
>>>>Hey (4), Anand in 1998 was the world's strongest blitz-player.
>>>>
>>>>Hey (5), On all 4 matches it was agreed that the winner of the match was the one
>>>>with the most points, regardless the time control.
>>
>>>I know what was agreed in the match conditions. That is not what we are talking
>>>about.
>>
>>>The point being you can not compare apples and oranges. Standard time controls
>>>with blitz. And no Anand was not the strongest Blitz-player in the world. Only
>>>the strongest human blitz player. Computers were stronger then and now then at
>>>blitz chess.
>>
>>At that time? No way. I was much surprised Anand lost the blitz part, and so was
>>Anand, also the prediction poll showed Rebel was the underdog.
>>
>>http://www.rebel.nl/predstat.htm

>The prediction showed it because people tended to underestimate computers.
>Predictions also showed in 1997 that kasparov is going to beat deeper blue.
>
>Humans for some reason support the humans who do not develop programs so they
>cannot think objectively.

For fun I browsed through the 650 votes, your name was in it too and you
predicted Rebel to win. But I also came across many CCC expert names who
predicted Rebel to lose significant, numbers like 2-6, 1½-6½ and even 1-7. It
fits the general recollection of that time, at least mine.



>>>>Hey (6), it made little sense those days to play on 40/2h against a GM, the
>>>>hardware was much to slow.
>>>
>>>Right...So for Mr. Ham to trumpet Rebel's match record with GM Yusupov and GM
>>>



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