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Subject: Re: Can Chess Engines perform Real Sacrifices???

Author: Laurence Chen

Date: 11:30:44 12/14/98

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On December 14, 1998 at 13:24:06, James Robertson wrote:

>On December 13, 1998 at 23:50:48, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>I am getting tired of hearing people making statements that their chess engine
>>is the most dynamic and it plays sacrifices for the initiative.
>
>I have not heard one programmer EVER say their program was the most dynamicand
>that it plays sacrifices for the initiative.
>
>>Really?! I say
>>that is not always true, I believe that most of the sac which the chess engine
>>performs are pseudo sacrifices and very very very few indeed are true or real
>>sacrifices. I would suspect that Chess System Tal would be an exception because
>>I've seen games which CST makes lots of sacrifices,it knows no fear. I have the
>>following position for all of you CM 6000 supporters which claim that CM always
>>create winning situations
>
>No one has ever claimed that CM6000 always creates winning situations.
>
>>and is always ready to perform a sacrifice for the
>>initiative. I've seen the type of sacrifices which CM performs, most of them >are pseudo-sacrifices,
>
>How do you define pseudo-sacrifices?? A sacrifice that results in a forced win?
>If the sacrifice is correct, then it is a forced win, or a forced swindle.
>
>>I've yet to see one which is a true sacrifice. So here's my
>>challenge to all of you CM supporters which claim that CM always make >sacrifices for the initiative,
>
>I have yet to see a message in which the author claimed that CM6k always
>sacrifices for the initiative. I recall one in which the author said something
>along the lines of "CM6k always is saccing something or pressing very hard for
>the initiative". Throughout your entire post, you put words in the mouths of us
>CM6k fans. Please don't.
>
>>I would like you to get a copy of the book, >Modern Chess Sacrifice, by Leonid >Shamkovich, and test all the positions in >the book and tell
>
>[snip]
>
>James
I don't put words in other people mouth. It is just some CM claimed that CM does
that. I was just stating some one else opinion, not my own. It seems to me that
some people twist my words, or make the wrong interpretation.



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