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Subject: Re: second test position resp-movei

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 14:58:57 04/21/04

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On April 21, 2004 at 16:55:17, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On April 21, 2004 at 16:44:15, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On April 21, 2004 at 16:11:27, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>Here is another case when I believe that movei blundered by playing Ba7 when
>>>after c5 the black bishop is a joke.
>>>
>>>I am surprised to see that not only movei has no sense of humor but even the
>>>ssdf leader  Shredder7.04(A1000, 64 mbytes hash) seems not to have it and cannot
>>>find the only logical move(Bd4) even after a long time(the second possibility is
>>>that I understand nothing about the position and the fact that the black bishop
>>>is out of the game is not important).
>>>
>>>Resp 0.19 - Movei 0.08.178d
>>>[D]1k1r3r/2p1n3/p1pq1p2/1pb1p3/1PP1P1pp/P2P3P/2Q1NPP1/R1BR2K1 b - b3 0 1
>>>
>>
>>Same for IsiChess MMX, likes Ba7 too all the time.
>>I thought i recently had implemented some trapped bishob code ;-)
>>Or was it already the AMD64 XMM-version which takes some more time?
>>
>>I guess there is probably wrong king safety compensation for the trapped bishop.
>>May be the closing "c5" makes the black king safer, due to less levers but more
>>rams on king related files. Other black pieces and the advanced pawns may be
>>ready for a king side attack. Interesting position!
>>
>>Gerd
>
>I think the code works :)
>

great!


>1	469	1	         53	1...Nd5
>1	445	1	         72	1...Rdf8
>1	383	1	         95	1...Rdg8
>1	375	1	        224	1...Bxf2+ 2.Kxf2
>1	371	1	        369	1...Bxb4
>1	25	1	        397	1...Bd4
>2	25	1	       1117	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4
>3	25	1	       1593	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 Qxd4
>4	42	5	       4237	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 Qxd4 3.Bb2
>5	74	8	      13546	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 Qxd4 3.Be3 Qd7
>6	98	11	      32942	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 Qxd4 3.Be3 Qd7 4.d4
>7	98	18	      82765	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 Qxd4 3.Bb2 Qd7 4.d4 exd4
>8	81	33	     208399	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 exd4 3.hxg4 h3 4.gxh3 Rxh3 5.Bb2 Qh2+ 6.Kf1
>9	75	60	     430252	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 exd4 3.hxg4 h3 4.gxh3 Rxh3 5.Kf1 Rg8 6.c5
>10	61	135	    1102037	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 Qxd4 3.Be3 Qd7 4.d4 gxh3 5.cxb5 cxb5 6.dxe5
>11	56	282	    2333824	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 exd4 3.hxg4 h3 4.c5
>12	58	608	    5088618	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 exd4 3.hxg4 h3 4.c5 Qe6
>13	63	1233	   10851144	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 exd4 3.hxg4 h3 4.c5 Qe6 5.gxh3 Rxh3 6.f3
>Qf7 7.Kg2 Rdh8
>14	70	6857	   55085739	1...Bd4 2.Nxd4 exd4 3.hxg4 h3 4.c5 Qd7 5.gxh3 Rxh3 6.Qe2
>Rg8 7.f3 Rh5
>
>But you are right there is something else going on over on the white kingside.
>
>If I force Ba7 the score on c5 starts to drop:
>
>1	234	0	        754	2.c5
>2	228	0	        857	2.c5 Qe6
>3	208	0	       1341	2.c5 Qe6 3.Qa2
>4	211	0	       2504	2.c5 Qd7 3.d4 gxh3
>5	184	3	       6823	2.c5 Qd7 3.hxg4 a5 4.g5
>6	184	6	      20139	2.c5 Qd7 3.hxg4 a5 4.g5 axb4
>7	163	13	      71345	2.c5 Qe6 3.hxg4 a5 4.g5 axb4 5.gxf6
>8	154	25	     188141	2.c5 Qe6 3.hxg4 a5 4.g5 axb4 5.gxf6 b3
>9	111	81	     656987	2.c5 Qe6 3.hxg4 a5 4.d4 axb4 5.axb4 Qxg4 6.Bb2
>10	104	247	    2141619	2.c5 Qe6 3.hxg4 Qxg4 4.f3 Qh5 5.d4 a5 6.f4 axb4
>11	72	786	    6918271	2.c5 Qd7 3.Kh2 a5 4.bxa5 gxh3 5.gxh3 Ka8 6.a4 Rhg8 7.axb5
>11	73	1372	   11915791	2.hxg4
>11	85	2061	   17836812	2.hxg4 Qe6 3.g5 h3 4.c5 a5 5.gxh3 Qxh3 6.Ng3 Qh2+ 7.Kf1
>axb4
>12	69	3134	   27100571	2.hxg4 Qe6 3.c5 Qxg4 4.f3 Qg7 5.f4 a5 6.Kf2 axb4 7.axb4
>Qg4
>13	63	7731	   66687997	2.hxg4 Qe6 3.c5 Qxg4 4.f3 Qg6 5.Kf2 a5 6.bxa5 Rhg8 7.Rg1
>Rd6
>13	64	8845	   75640779	2.c5
>
>-S.

5..a5 looks interesting.
Does your trapped code ignore that possible lever or did you consider that b4 is
defended by a pawn on a3?

Thanks,
Gerd



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