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Subject: Re: For Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Date: 11:27:58 04/22/04

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Hi Ziad,


On April 22, 2004 at 13:48:19, Ziad Haddad wrote:
>Hi Stefan
>It's great to have you in this forum. I think  that all the top chess
>programmers must give a particular interest to the computer chess forums because
>they'll find there what we expect from their products, but also it's agreat
>source to discover the eventual bugs of the product because i suppose that with
>all the computer chess lovers community we got there the biggest beta testers
>ever.
>
>I've got a special question for you. I posted about an eventual bug of the
>Shredder's engines in the managment of the HashTables. In fact, when i test them
>in simultaneous games against various engines i have found that as the number of
>consecutive games is greater as the results of the shredder engine is becoming
>bad (to avoid the influence of the openings choosen by the engine i always test
>it from some positions that i picked from the Nunn Testsets or others ). But
>after i switch my computer Off, open it again and reinitiate the matches the
>results of Shredder are good.
>
>haven't you discovered such a bug?


No, I am pretty sure that there is no such bug. To prove that there is such a
bug you would need many games, and if I say many I really mean many.


>Have you an idea concerning this problem? May be it's due to my computer. I've
>tested mostly on a 2,4 MHz P4 with a Hash for each engine of 64 Mo, Learn Off
>for Shredder.


Why do you switch learning off? I am working on a nice feature and you are just
switching it off? :-)


>I've got a total of 128Mo of possible Hash for each engine. The
>main time control used is 3mn per engine. This problem tends to be less
>important with greater time controls!!


Still I am sure that there is no such problem.


> May be Shredder have had this problem in
>his last round game of the WCCC 2003 !?


No, that was something different. Actually the story of the Graz bug is funny
somehow, maybe sometimes I will write something about it...

Stefan



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