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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List 2004-04-22

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:37:01 04/23/04

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On April 23, 2004 at 02:36:42, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On April 23, 2004 at 01:50:33, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 2004 at 22:49:49, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>My request has just one goal: from the result I tend to think that Shredder has
>>>>uncovered a serious weakness in Chess Tiger and I would like to identify it and
>>>>fix it as soon as possible. I think that looking at the games will help me,
>>>>because I do not have Shredder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>Okay, so you've been revising Tiger without playing it against the world #1?
>>>Whoa...that's impressive. I'll bet most authors compulsively test against the
>>>top engines, particularly the top engine.
>>>
>>>Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>I do not have any of the top chess engines. Maybe it's time to change this.
>>
>>I do have older versions. I have Fritz 2 and 3, Genius 5 and recently I have
>>purchased Genius 7. I also have several flavors of Rebel.
>>
>>I have Fritz 6 and Junior 6 (I think) sent by ChessBase. I also believe I have
>>an older version of Hiarcs (7.something). However I have never used them.
>>
>>The only program I use as a sparring partner is Genius. I play a few blitz games
>>from time to time, giving 5 minutes to Genius and 2 minutes to Tiger. Always fun
>>to watch, and sometimes instructive.
>>
>>Now I'm starting to think that maybe I should do like the other chess
>>programmers and try to find weaknesses in the competitors programs...
>
>I certainly hope this won't be the norm for further progress.  It isn't true
>advancement in my opinion.
>
>As far as spotting mismatches between programs (hopefully not tuned
>intentionally), I believe we have a pretty decent system with HIARCS.
>
>Nothing cutting-edge or spectacular...  If you're interested, send me an email
>with the address registered with this name.
>
>At any rate, you have a much larger field of beta testers than we use...  Don't
>some of them run loads of engine matches for you?
>
>-elc.



The developpement stage of Chess Tiger does not involve beta testers, or very
little testing by external people.

Only the beta test stage (when we are about to release a new version and want to
make sure it is reasonably bug-free) involves beta testers.

It is possible that at this stage some people tell me about specific weaknesses
to fix. If possible I try to fix them, but generally they will be fixed in the
next release, not the one being tested.



    Christophe



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