Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 17:45:26 04/24/04
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On April 24, 2004 at 18:40:04, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On April 24, 2004 at 17:43:32, Dan Andersson wrote:
>
>> It would be interesting to read a post mortem of the opening by you. When did
>>you begin to feel uneasy about the position? And when did Diep?
>>
>>MvH Dan Andersson
>
>I knew i would lose after c6 in opening?
>
>French nearly always loses in computerchess. It is a lost opening. Sneaky, but
>lost and especially when losing a tempo or 3 trying to get rid of c8 bishop as
>soon as possible.
>
>After ruffian played Nf6-d7 out of book i had a look why and then realized that
>Rae8 would soon come followed by Be6-c8.
>
>When i realized that, at that moment i knew i would lose it.
>
>When Rad8 was played i told my opponent so. He couldn't believe it. He had minus
>0.7 nearly at his display and diep white up 2.0 or whatever.
>
>Some IM walking around from the UAE (Taleb, very cool guy by the way) even 10
>moves later still thought it was unclear, at the moment that i had seen a mating
>plan for black already.
>
>Amazingly that despite my small search depth i saw the winning plans for Ruffian
>already for quite a while. Always expecting Bg4 of course with black.
>
>What is sad in such tournaments is that just openings get played where nice
>positional or technical chess is not needed. All you need is a speculative
>beancounter that attacks like crazy in the lines that get played against me.
>
>Of course it offers from human viewpoint sometimes nice chess like what hydra is
>doing, but in a normal position it doesn't play sound chess.
>
>In general i feel bad scoring 0.5 out of 3 in the second day. But i feel diep
>has made a lot of progress, with the exception of the hydra game where diep
>liberated its bishop too soon, instead of taking care to get a good king safety.
>
>Important is that DIEP didn't take on c3 but played Bb4-e7 in opening. Do other
>engines manage to prevent taking on c3 and getting themselves a pawn or 3?
>
>Erdo was just explaining how diep would get crushed after taking all those pawns
>in opening, when diep failed high to Be7.
>
> 1 e2-e4 (1:30:00,1:30:00)
> 1.. c7-c5 (1:30:00,1:29:59)
> 1 d2-d4 (1:30:00,1:30:00)
> 1.. Ng8-f6 (1:30:00,1:29:59)
> 2 Nb1-c3 (1:29:48,1:29:59)
> 2.. d7-d5 (1:29:48,1:29:59)
> 3 f2-f3 (1:29:35,1:29:59)
> 3.. e7-e6 (1:29:35,1:29:59)
> 4 e2-e4 (1:29:23,1:29:59)
> 4.. Bf8-b4 (1:29:23,1:29:59)
> 5 a2-a3 (1:29:10,1:29:59)
> 5.. Bb4-e7 (1:29:10,1:24:31) 0.08 12 61773023 05:27 188573 61773023 0 (2)
>12 (99,1085) 0.079 Bb4-e7 Bc1-f4 O-O Qd1-d2 Nb8-c6 O-O-O d5xe4 f3xe4 e6-e5 d4xe5
>Qd8xd2 Rd1xd2
> 6 e4-e5 (1:28:59,1:24:31)
> 6.. Nf6-d7 (1:28:59,1:20:11) 0.19 13 23882429 01:45 194368 20447543 0 (2)
>12 (15,239) 0.202 Nf6-d7 f3-f4 c7-c6 Bc1-d2 b7-b6 f4-f5 Bc8-a6 f5xe6 f7xe6
>Ng1-f3 O-O Nc3-e2
> 7 f3-f4 (1:28:49,1:20:11)
> 7.. c7-c6 (1:28:49,1:14:11) 0.31 13 31858509 01:10 184988 13034315 0 (2)
>12 (10,84) 0.183 c7-c6 g2-g3 b7-b6 Bf1-g2 a7-a5 Bc1-d2 Bc8-a6 Ng1-e2 h7-h5 f4-f5
>Ba6xe2 Nc3xe2 e6xf5
>
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent
It's nice to read your comments when the tone of your message is moderate and
balanced, as you did in this one.
It looks like Diep has made progress. Keep up the good work.
Good luck for tomorrow.
Christophe
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