Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 06:07:31 04/25/04
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On April 25, 2004 at 09:03:38, Helmut Conrady wrote: >On April 25, 2004 at 07:56:15, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On April 25, 2004 at 07:55:09, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On April 25, 2004 at 06:53:39, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>> >>>>On April 25, 2004 at 06:47:21, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>> >>>>No Jorge, see here: >>>> >>>> >>>>Ruffian 2.1.0 - Shredder, real position: >>>> >>>> >>>>[D]6Q1/8/p7/7p/8/5q2/5k2/2K5 w - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>Is this won with 6-Pieces? I believe no >>>>then the pawn on a6 is not possible in the endgame >>>> >>>>(Ruffian 2.1.0 has not 6 pieces, but Shredder have it). >>>> >>>>Position without pawn a5: >>>> >>>>[D]6Q1/8/8/7p/8/5q2/5k2/2K5 w - - 0 63 >>>> >>>> >>>>Draw: >>>> >>>>1. = (0.00): 63.Dd8 >>>>2. -+ (-#76): 63.Da2+ >>>> >>>>But Ruffian (without 6-Pieces) plays Qa2+? and lost. :( >>>> >>>>Here won also not the engine, it won the better EGTB, or? :) >>> >>>But the engine has to reach that position before it can use the EGTB, therefore, >>>the game was won after reaching that position with or without 6-Pieces EGTB. >>> >>>Jorge >> >>Correct! >> >>Sandro > >Eduard is right IMO. In a tablebase-based search the tablebases can help to >reach a won position, which the engine may be couldn`t find alone. > >I would argue in an other way: every programmar is free to use as much >tablebases as he wants ... > > >Helmut I agree with Eduard, but in this specific position the program is able to see the win also without 6 EGTB. I know it because I do not have them and I saw the program evaluation on one of my computers. Sandro
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