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Subject: Re: Leiden Round 8: first moves by Ruffian, King, Tiger (PGN)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:42:05 04/26/04

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On April 25, 2004 at 16:57:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On April 25, 2004 at 16:01:57, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On April 25, 2004 at 15:42:37, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On April 25, 2004 at 08:51:54, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>>[Event "CSVN"]
>>>>>[Site "Leiden"]
>>>>>[Date "2004.04.25"]
>>>>>[Round "8"]
>>>>>[White "The King"]
>>>>>[Black "Shredder"]
>>>>>[Result "*"]
>>>>>[ECO "B52"]
>>>>>[Annotator "thstorm"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "58"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. c4 Nc6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. O-O g6 8.
>>>>>Rb1 Bg7 9. a3 O-O 10. b4 Ng4 11. Nd5 e6 12. Ne3 Nge5 13. Nxe5 dxe5 14. b5 Nd4
>>>>>15. Nc2 Rad8 16. Nxd4 Qxd4 17. Qc2 Qd3 18. Rb2 Qe2 19. d3 Qxc2 20. Rxc2 Rxd3
>>>>>21. a4 f5 22. f3 Kf7 23. Bb2 Rfd8 24. Re1 f4 25. a5 g5 26. Kf2 h5 27. h3 Kf6
>>>>>28. Rc3 Rd2+ 29. Re2 R2d4 *
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Eduard
>>>>     Shredder will surely win this game I think. Not very convincinly
>>>>     played by The King.
>>>>     Kurt & Rolf Chess: http://www.utzingerkurt.com
>>>>     Kurt
>>>
>>>Hi Kurt,
>>>
>>>this game was a disaster for The King.
>>>It's the game Salov-Shirov Madrid 1996 0-1 (32)
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>Indeed, at least all the way up through 20...Rxd3. But, just in case you were
>>thinking it, this wasn't an opening book problem, because there were several
>>transpositions between the GM game and the Leiden game.
>>
>>jm
>
>I don't think so. The transpositions at the beginning of the game are normal.
>From move 8 to 20 the game score is identical.
>
>I think The King probably would have played 14.bxc5.
>
>I know it's not possible to check every line in those big books.
>Shouldn't be a problem however to avoid repeating the moves from the master who
>lost the game.
>
>Michael


Based on _lots_ of analysis, that also leads to problems.  IE the player that
_won_ could have just as easily made a bad move himself...

:)



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