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Subject: Re: Test Position ... more

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 05:09:24 04/27/04

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On April 27, 2004 at 01:53:35, John Merlino wrote:

>On April 26, 2004 at 21:48:57, Dan Ellwein wrote:
>
>>On April 25, 2004 at 18:22:46, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>
>>>On April 24, 2004 at 18:21:31, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 24, 2004 at 15:28:13, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 23, 2004 at 20:05:51, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 23, 2004 at 16:52:42, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This position is from The King v Diep in the recent ICT4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[D]r3k2r/pp1bppbp/2n3p1/8/8/2N1B1P1/PP2PPBP/2RK3R w kq - 0 13
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Chessmaster 9000 database has two games with this position, played by top
>>>>>>>GMs (Andersson v Leko in 1996 and Smirin v Alterman in 1998). In both cases,
>>>>>>>White played f4 and won.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The King, however, chose Kc2 and is soon forced over to a3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually I cheered when TK switched to Kc2 at the last minute (make that
>>>>>>the last second :-). Both a3 and a1/b1 look better then e1, superficially.
>>>>>>Little did I know what lied ahead though. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>... Johan
>>>>>
>>>>>Did TK switch from f4 or Ke1?
>>>>
>>>>I don't recall seeing f4 in any of the PVs.
>>>>(Will correct tomorrow, if needed.)
>>>
>>>So much for my memory.
>>>It switched from f4 to Kc2.
>>>In 3-best mode it lists Kc3, f4, and h4 within a few cents.
>>>(on slower hardware)
>>>252.33  45M289 03/12 +0.07 Kc2,Bf5+ Kb3,0-0 Rhd1,Rfd8 Rxd8+,Rxd8 Bxc6,bxc6 ...
>>>305.83  54M957 03/12 -0.01 f4,Rc8 Kd2,0-0 Rhd1,Bf5 Ke1,e5 fxe5,Bxe5 Kf2,Rfe8
>>>383.66  68M885 03/12 +0.03 h4,Rd8 Ke1,h5 Kf1,0-0 Kg1,Be6 Kh2,Rfe8 Rhe1,Rd7
>>>
>>>... Johan
>>
>>Hi Johan
>>
>>just for the record CM9_OffSet likes Kc2 in this position...
>>
>>P3/850
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>----	----	----	----		----
>>0:00	1/3	0.48	4930		1.Nb5 Rd8 2.Nc7+ Kf8
>>0:00	1/3	0.49	5409		1.f4 O-O 2.Rf1 Rfc8
>>0:00	1/4	0.49	8181		1.f4 O-O 2.Rf1 Rfc8
>>0:00	1/4	0.55	17208		1.Nd5 Rd8 2.b3 Kf8
>>0:00	1/5	0.29	36913		1.Nd5 Rd8 2.Kc2 Bf5+ 3.Kb3 Nd4+
>>					4.Bxd4 Bxd4
>>0:00	1/5	0.53	47262		1.Nb5 Rd8 2.Kc2 O-O 3.Nxa7 Bf5+
>>					4.Kb3
>>0:01	1/6	0.68	90706		1.Nb5 Rd8 2.Ke1 a5 3.f4 Bxb2
>>0:02	1/7	0.29	219503		1.Nb5 O-O 2.Nxa7 Nxa7 3.Bxb7 Rad8
>>					4.Ke1 Bxb2
>>0:03	1/7	0.42	329111		1.Nd5 Rd8 2.Bd2 Kf8 3.Bc3 Nd4 4.Bb4
>>					Nf5
>>0:07	1/7	0.60	632608		1.Kc2 Bf5+ 2.Be4 Bxe4+ 3.Nxe4 f5
>>					4.Nc5 O-O-O 5.Kb1 e5
>>0:10	1/8	0.66	900983		1.Kc2 O-O 2.Kb1 Rfc8 3.Rhd1 Bf5+
>>					4.Be4 Bg4 5.f4 e6
>>0:22	1/8	0.70	1997546		1.Na4 Bf5 2.Ke1 Rc8 3.b3 Bd7 4.Nc5
>>					Bb2 5.Rd1
>>0:30	1/9	0.68	2770742		1.Na4 Bf5 2.Rg1 Rc8 3.Bxc6+ bxc6
>>					4.Ke1 Rc7 5.g4 Be6
>>0:38	1/9	0.82	3570621		1.Kc2 O-O 2.Rhd1 Bf5+ 3.Be4 Bg4
>>					4.Kb1 Rfc8 5.f3 Be6 6.Nd5
>>0:51	1/10	0.78	4873139		1.Kc2 O-O 2.Rhd1 Bf5+ 3.Be4 Bh3
>>					4.Kb1 Rfc8 5.f4 Be6 6.Nb5
>>2:16	1/11	0.87	12968586	1.Kc2 O-O-O 2.Kb1 Kb8 3.Rhd1 Rhe8
>>					4.f4 Nb4 5.Ne4 Be6 6.Rxd8+ Rxd8
>>5:07	1/12	0.95	29377143	1.Kc2 O-O 2.Rhd1 Be6 3.Kb1 Rfc8
>>					4.Nd5 Bf5+ 5.Ka1 Kf8 6.Nf4 Kg8
>>					7.Bxc6 bxc6
>>13:41	2/13	1.04	78101462	1.Kc2 O-O 2.Rhd1 Bg4 3.Kb1 Rfc8
>>					4.Bc5 Kf8 5.f4 Bf5+ 6.Be4 b6 7.Bxf5
>>					gxf5 8.Be3 e6
>>best regards,
>>
>>Dan
>
>An eval of >1.0 shows how very odd this personality is. It might be useful for
>finding sacrifices, but for general analysis I wouldn't trust it at all. The
>final PV doesn't even show Diep's obvious follow-up of 1...Bf5+.
>
>jm

yes John agree...

this personality shines best in positions rich in tactics...

thanks for replying

Dan



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