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Subject: Re: Leiden Round 8: first moves by Ruffian, King, Tiger (PGN)

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 15:39:29 04/27/04

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On April 26, 2004 at 16:42:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 25, 2004 at 16:57:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On April 25, 2004 at 16:01:57, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On April 25, 2004 at 15:42:37, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 25, 2004 at 08:51:54, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "CSVN"]
>>>>>>[Site "Leiden"]
>>>>>>[Date "2004.04.25"]
>>>>>>[Round "8"]
>>>>>>[White "The King"]
>>>>>>[Black "Shredder"]
>>>>>>[Result "*"]
>>>>>>[ECO "B52"]
>>>>>>[Annotator "thstorm"]
>>>>>>[PlyCount "58"]
>>>>>>[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. c4 Nc6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. O-O g6 8.
>>>>>>Rb1 Bg7 9. a3 O-O 10. b4 Ng4 11. Nd5 e6 12. Ne3 Nge5 13. Nxe5 dxe5 14. b5 Nd4
>>>>>>15. Nc2 Rad8 16. Nxd4 Qxd4 17. Qc2 Qd3 18. Rb2 Qe2 19. d3 Qxc2 20. Rxc2 Rxd3
>>>>>>21. a4 f5 22. f3 Kf7 23. Bb2 Rfd8 24. Re1 f4 25. a5 g5 26. Kf2 h5 27. h3 Kf6
>>>>>>28. Rc3 Rd2+ 29. Re2 R2d4 *
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Eduard
>>>>>     Shredder will surely win this game I think. Not very convincinly
>>>>>     played by The King.
>>>>>     Kurt & Rolf Chess: http://www.utzingerkurt.com
>>>>>     Kurt
>>>>
>>>>Hi Kurt,
>>>>
>>>>this game was a disaster for The King.
>>>>It's the game Salov-Shirov Madrid 1996 0-1 (32)
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>Indeed, at least all the way up through 20...Rxd3. But, just in case you were
>>>thinking it, this wasn't an opening book problem, because there were several
>>>transpositions between the GM game and the Leiden game.
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>I don't think so. The transpositions at the beginning of the game are normal.
>>From move 8 to 20 the game score is identical.
>>
>>I think The King probably would have played 14.bxc5.
>>
>>I know it's not possible to check every line in those big books.
>>Shouldn't be a problem however to avoid repeating the moves from the master who
>>lost the game.
>>
>>Michael
>
>
>Based on _lots_ of analysis, that also leads to problems.  IE the player that
>_won_ could have just as easily made a bad move himself...
>
>:)

If you lose a game you _always_ made at least one bad move.
Your opponent however might have played perfectly. :)

Michael



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