Author: Mridul Muralidharan
Date: 22:32:38 04/27/04
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Seeing the vitriol in the other posts in this thread ... I should have just shut up and not posted the previous post. Mridul On April 28, 2004 at 01:01:04, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >On April 28, 2004 at 00:06:17, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On April 27, 2004 at 17:55:17, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >> >>>On April 27, 2004 at 16:52:31, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On April 27, 2004 at 16:26:07, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 15:36:22, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 13:04:14, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 09:20:26, Günther Simon wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Return-Path: <icd@icdchess.com> >>>>>>>>Received: from marek.org ([213.173.216.226]) by mailin06.sul.t-online.de" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>marek.org seems to be a strange site BTW... >>>>>>>>http://www.marek.org/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Günther >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have recieved the same. Someone on the board probably has ICD Chess in their >>>>>>>address book, and it is sending to everyone in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just in case I ever do get a worm virus it isn't going anywhere. Just create a >>>>>>>new contact in your address book with the name 0000, and no email address. It >>>>>>>stops the virus from proceeding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Peter. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't see why it would stop a virus from proceeding with the next entry in >>>>>>your address book. >>>>>> >>>>>>Urban legend? Hoax? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christophe >>>>> >>>>>Most of the new "viruses" (more like worms by script kiddies) are horribly buggy >>>>>and not very well thought out :) >>>>>If indeed this "0000" solution stops this particular virus - then it points to a >>>>>bug in it ... looks like not only commercial s/w and chess programs , but >>>>>viruses also have bugs in them ;) >>>>> >>>>>Mridul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>What about: >>>>1) not opening attachments that end with .pif .com .exe .bat .scr .vbs and so >>>>on? >>>>2) using a more secure operating system (Linux comes to mind) >>>> >>>>I have been doing 1 for many years and never got infected when I was using >>>>Windows (and I have received thousands of virii in that period of time). >>>> >>>>I'm doing 2 now and have a good laugh at those your_document.pif attached files. >>>> >>>>If you believe that creating a 0000 contact in your address book will protect >>>>you... go ahead... you can also use paper condoms. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>True , prevention is better than cure .... though you cannot implictly assume >>>that using linux means assured more security than windows (which gives the >>>impression to be amazingly insecure !) - there are indeed worms , exploits , etc >>>for linux which can have as much effect on your machine as a virus/worm in >>>windows : though definitely they are less common and typically require some user >>>negligence to infect/propogate. >>> >>>I have been using windows , solaris and linux for many years now without any >>>worm/viral infection on my machines .... mails are not the only virus entry >>>points to your machine , though nowadays it is the most common one. >>>Using some mail clients which automatically execute macros , etc can also be an >>>invitation for infections. >>> >>>In the above case though , it is someone else who is infected and Günther Simon >>>got a mail from the infected system ... >>>I do hope that Peter did some "testing" before arriving at the 0000 solution to >>>combat this virus ;) >> >> >> >>My problem with this 0000 trick is that I fail to see why Peter even mentionned >>it. >> >>I don't care if it works or not. >> >>If it works, it works with one kind of bugged virii. Does not protect you from >>the rest anyway. >> >>If it does not work... it protects you from nothing. >> >>So what's the point in mentionning it? >> >>Worse, what's the point in USING it? >> >> >> >> Christophe >> > >True , this is not a solution in the traditional sense - better is to protect >yourself than to try out ideas like this. >It looks more like a temporary solution to "shutup" a class of buggy viruses >(maybe all using the same engine/libraries ;) ) which exhibit this anamoly of >assuming no more addresses when it sees no more info in address book associated >with this "0000" entry (0000 so that it heads the addresses in address book : >typically these mass mailling worms just serially pick up first N addresses from >adderss book and mail themselves). > >When most of your private network/lan of say 100+ pc's in a small/medium office >gets affected and it is taking some time to clean up all of these machines ... >then it is better to try out things like this to reduce the n/w congestion ;) >The melissa (and its varients) was quiet virulent and cost quiet a bit in this >way too ... > >So there is a corner case where people might try out his idea :) >(Ofcourse , this will not work with all viruses , and also does not clean the >virus - but contains it , and better is to clean than to try these : but not >entirely without use) > >Mridul > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>(BTW bloodhound , indicated above, is not a virus name but indicates that >>>Günther Simon might be using nav and it detected unknown virus) >>> >>>Mridul
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