Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 11:18:22 04/28/04
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On April 28, 2004 at 01:32:38, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>Seeing the vitriol in the other posts in this thread ... I should have just shut
>up and not posted the previous post.
>
>Mridul
I just hope you understand my point.
Even if I knew that droping lemon juice on the right place of your body could
protect you from ONE sexually transmitted desease, I would not even mention it.
Because I know that using condoms will protect you from almost all STD, and that
not advising you to use them is criminal in some ways.
Christophe
>On April 28, 2004 at 01:01:04, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2004 at 00:06:17, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On April 27, 2004 at 17:55:17, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 16:52:31, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 16:26:07, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 15:36:22, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 13:04:14, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On April 27, 2004 at 09:20:26, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Return-Path: <icd@icdchess.com>
>>>>>>>>>Received: from marek.org ([213.173.216.226]) by mailin06.sul.t-online.de"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>marek.org seems to be a strange site BTW...
>>>>>>>>>http://www.marek.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Günther
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have recieved the same. Someone on the board probably has ICD Chess in their
>>>>>>>>address book, and it is sending to everyone in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just in case I ever do get a worm virus it isn't going anywhere. Just create a
>>>>>>>>new contact in your address book with the name 0000, and no email address. It
>>>>>>>>stops the virus from proceeding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Peter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't see why it would stop a virus from proceeding with the next entry in
>>>>>>>your address book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Urban legend? Hoax?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christophe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Most of the new "viruses" (more like worms by script kiddies) are horribly buggy
>>>>>>and not very well thought out :)
>>>>>>If indeed this "0000" solution stops this particular virus - then it points to a
>>>>>>bug in it ... looks like not only commercial s/w and chess programs , but
>>>>>>viruses also have bugs in them ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mridul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What about:
>>>>>1) not opening attachments that end with .pif .com .exe .bat .scr .vbs and so
>>>>>on?
>>>>>2) using a more secure operating system (Linux comes to mind)
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been doing 1 for many years and never got infected when I was using
>>>>>Windows (and I have received thousands of virii in that period of time).
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm doing 2 now and have a good laugh at those your_document.pif attached files.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you believe that creating a 0000 contact in your address book will protect
>>>>>you... go ahead... you can also use paper condoms.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Christophe
>>>>
>>>>True , prevention is better than cure .... though you cannot implictly assume
>>>>that using linux means assured more security than windows (which gives the
>>>>impression to be amazingly insecure !) - there are indeed worms , exploits , etc
>>>>for linux which can have as much effect on your machine as a virus/worm in
>>>>windows : though definitely they are less common and typically require some user
>>>>negligence to infect/propogate.
>>>>
>>>>I have been using windows , solaris and linux for many years now without any
>>>>worm/viral infection on my machines .... mails are not the only virus entry
>>>>points to your machine , though nowadays it is the most common one.
>>>>Using some mail clients which automatically execute macros , etc can also be an
>>>>invitation for infections.
>>>>
>>>>In the above case though , it is someone else who is infected and Günther Simon
>>>>got a mail from the infected system ...
>>>>I do hope that Peter did some "testing" before arriving at the 0000 solution to
>>>>combat this virus ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>My problem with this 0000 trick is that I fail to see why Peter even mentionned
>>>it.
>>>
>>>I don't care if it works or not.
>>>
>>>If it works, it works with one kind of bugged virii. Does not protect you from
>>>the rest anyway.
>>>
>>>If it does not work... it protects you from nothing.
>>>
>>>So what's the point in mentionning it?
>>>
>>>Worse, what's the point in USING it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christophe
>>>
>>
>>True , this is not a solution in the traditional sense - better is to protect
>>yourself than to try out ideas like this.
>>It looks more like a temporary solution to "shutup" a class of buggy viruses
>>(maybe all using the same engine/libraries ;) ) which exhibit this anamoly of
>>assuming no more addresses when it sees no more info in address book associated
>>with this "0000" entry (0000 so that it heads the addresses in address book :
>>typically these mass mailling worms just serially pick up first N addresses from
>>adderss book and mail themselves).
>>
>>When most of your private network/lan of say 100+ pc's in a small/medium office
>>gets affected and it is taking some time to clean up all of these machines ...
>>then it is better to try out things like this to reduce the n/w congestion ;)
>>The melissa (and its varients) was quiet virulent and cost quiet a bit in this
>>way too ...
>>
>>So there is a corner case where people might try out his idea :)
>>(Ofcourse , this will not work with all viruses , and also does not clean the
>>virus - but contains it , and better is to clean than to try these : but not
>>entirely without use)
>>
>>Mridul
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>(BTW bloodhound , indicated above, is not a virus name but indicates that
>>>>Günther Simon might be using nav and it detected unknown virus)
>>>>
>>>>Mridul
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