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Subject: Re: just luck, shredder is a real champion

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:03:18 04/29/04

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On April 29, 2004 at 08:35:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 29, 2004 at 00:05:38, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2004 at 23:55:45, ERIQ wrote:
>>
>>>On April 28, 2004 at 21:49:15, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest.  So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying?
>>>>>
>>>>>amazing! there is one buyer :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have my credit card ready?  I can even send a postal order, or cheque!
>>>>>
>>>>>wow!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff!
>>>>>
>>>>>not sure why?! but to each his own.
>>>>>
>>>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain
>>>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it?
>>>>>
>>>>>save you money and get crafty, you'll feel better afterwards :)
>>>>
>>>>Not only did Diep beat the Champion (Shredder) at the recent tournament at
>>>>Leiden, it was the only program to NOT LOSE to Shredder! It can't be that
>>>>bad....
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>you know as well as I, that any program can have a good event, that does not
>>>make it a champion. Shredder is a real champion, it has won lots of events and
>>>as fischer put it "strength is better determined by match play", and so being, I
>>>don't think diep would win a 20 game match with any of the top 5 programs today.
>>>I just don't think much of diep or it's style.
>>>
>>>Sign,
>>>   Eriq Lamar
>>
>>I didn't say that Shredder wasn't a great program, nor did I mean to infer that
>>Diep was a "top 5 program". All I was saying was that Diep can't obviously be as
>>bad as your colorful statement above claims, or else it couldn't have beaten a
>>champion.
>
>Oh well, the latest versions of DIEP are in the top3 for sure.
>
>Whether it's better than Shredder or worse, we'll see in world champs 2004.
>
>It would be a wrong conclusion to say that Shredder isn't dominating currently.
>Anyone denying that has dirt in his eyes. Shredder 7.04 and 8 are over-all
>monsters. Any other engine that says he's in top3 must proof his point and beat
>it.

Beating shredder is no proof that you are in the top 3 programs.
Yace also beated shredder in another tournamrnt and is not close to be in the
top 3 programs.

Uri



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