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Subject: Re: just luck, shredder is a real champion

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:56:08 04/29/04

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On April 29, 2004 at 09:29:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 29, 2004 at 09:03:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2004 at 08:35:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 29, 2004 at 00:05:38, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 23:55:45, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 21:49:15, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest.  So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>amazing! there is one buyer :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have my credit card ready?  I can even send a postal order, or cheque!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>wow!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>not sure why?! but to each his own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain
>>>>>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>save you money and get crafty, you'll feel better afterwards :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not only did Diep beat the Champion (Shredder) at the recent tournament at
>>>>>>Leiden, it was the only program to NOT LOSE to Shredder! It can't be that
>>>>>>bad....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jm
>>>>>you know as well as I, that any program can have a good event, that does not
>>>>>make it a champion. Shredder is a real champion, it has won lots of events and
>>>>>as fischer put it "strength is better determined by match play", and so being, I
>>>>>don't think diep would win a 20 game match with any of the top 5 programs today.
>>>>>I just don't think much of diep or it's style.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sign,
>>>>>   Eriq Lamar
>>>>
>>>>I didn't say that Shredder wasn't a great program, nor did I mean to infer that
>>>>Diep was a "top 5 program". All I was saying was that Diep can't obviously be as
>>>>bad as your colorful statement above claims, or else it couldn't have beaten a
>>>>champion.
>>>
>>>Oh well, the latest versions of DIEP are in the top3 for sure.
>>>
>>>Whether it's better than Shredder or worse, we'll see in world champs 2004.
>>>
>>>It would be a wrong conclusion to say that Shredder isn't dominating currently.
>>>Anyone denying that has dirt in his eyes. Shredder 7.04 and 8 are over-all
>>>monsters. Any other engine that says he's in top3 must proof his point and beat
>>>it.
>>
>>Beating shredder is no proof that you are in the top 3 programs.
>>Yace also beated shredder in another tournamrnt and is not close to be in the
>>top 3 programs.
>>
>>Uri
>
>And scoring 0 points in world champs 2004 for Movei is no proof that it is not
>in the top 3 either of course.

I never claimed that movei is in the top 3 programs.
I can claim that it is not in the top 3 programs and even not in the top 30
programs so I do not see your point.

Uri



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