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Subject: Re: Will Diep be available for purchase Vincent?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:00:06 04/29/04

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On April 29, 2004 at 10:08:23, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 29, 2004 at 08:12:22, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2004 at 07:27:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 28, 2004 at 21:28:42, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 17:55:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 17:39:58, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 16:45:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest.  So, will
>>>>>>>>a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I currently do not sell diep. So it is not commercial. Selling winboard versions
>>>>>>>would be like getting paid 1 euro an hour, so it is not worth the effort. There
>>>>>>>are however plans to release a diep version for windows + interface end of 2004.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This time i would only sell a few versions of diep when there is a clear update
>>>>>>>system online for it. So that everything works transparant. Such systems are not
>>>>>>>there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So if released diep will run in its own interface, the engine cannot be loaded
>>>>>>>in others of course (like fritz cannot get either).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would cost you many customers. Many people want the Chess engines for
>>>>>
>>>>>You mean like 10 CCC guys who i can miss as a toothache anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>>playing tournaments inside Chessbase GUI and they are very lazy to play by hand
>>>>>>in a non-automatic way, the moves. So you can create a Diep that will play it's
>>>>>>own interface and a Diep-winboard compatible. Like Chessmaster 8000/9000.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not know a single chessmaster user who gives a shit for those features.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do realize a handful of nerds here does, but you can't earn money on nerds.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>If i would do that i would
>>>>>>>be busy fulltime now avoiding all tricks to win from opponents in other ways
>>>>>>>than sportive ones. In that respect the computer chess world is so so sick,
>>>>>>>thanks to a few companies and 'testers' who tolerated for payment everything,
>>>>>>>that i will not even start a discussion about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have my credit card ready?  I can even send a postal order, or cheque!
>>>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the encouragement!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nuff said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There are millions of nerds and more than a few thousand nerds buy  chess
>>>>programs - esp winboard/uci compatible engines.
>>>>
>>>>In our house ( you have to understand my son plays ice hockey - which is about
>>>>as far from chess as one get), we have a advertiser flyer (junk mail) posted on
>>>>the refrigerator.  It was from a manufacturer of hockey equipment and skates
>>>>with a few of their products pictured on the front.  Gloves, helmet and skates.
>>>>
>>>>It reads "Everything you need to avoid being inducted into the Chess Hall of
>>>>Fame".
>>>>
>>>>Since hockey and chess absorb so much of my free time, we got a big kick out of
>>>>it and saved it.  When friends visit, it is always good for a few laughs.  So as
>>>>one can see,  chess has been in Nerdville for quite some time.
>>>
>>>Even if it was 1000 nerds, you can't make a living from 1000 nerds.
>>
>>This is the wrong math.
>>The question is not if you can make living from 1000 nerds but how much money do
>>you expect to earn from additional 1000 buyers and how much work do you need to
>>do for that money.
>>If you can by some days of work to get additional 1000 customers then I see no
>>reason for you not to do it.
>
>>The fact that most of the customers will not use it under winboard is
>>irrelevant.
>>
>>Some commercial programs like chessmaster or Sjeng or Ruffian can play under
>>winboard.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Why not try to sell your movei , winboard compatible, to them for 10 euro?
>
>Perhaps you get a 100 customers or so.
>
>Is that not rewarding for you?

I do not think that I will get 100 customers with the level of movei and people
will hate me if I try to sell a program when there are free programs that are
significantly stronger.

Movei needs at least to promote to the premier division in Leo's tournament
before I consider selling it.

Uri



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