Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 08:30:29 04/29/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 10:05:58, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 09:43:02, Peter Berger wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 09:27:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>Basically you say i should target at those 1000 guys who want to run other >>>software under their chessbase? >>> >>> >>>And if i'm real lucky then a small part of those users will buy DIEP, if it >>>would get sold? >>> >>>What planet do you come from? >> >>I think you might have a point here. This week there is a (very nice) review of >>Shredder 8 and Junior 8 at ChessCafe by Kjell Arne Brekke: >>http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/books.htm >> >>While he does a good job of highlighting all the general effects of the programs >>all using the same interface and the outdated helpfiles in general for an >>ordinary user( who isn't puzzled when Shredder calls itself Fritz 6 in the >>chatter?), his basic conclusion that he can't think of any reason why one should >>get one of the others, if he already owns one of them (Fritz, Junior, Shredder) >>sounds even more convincing. > >I feel Kjell has shown one of the keypoints here. > Well, I don't see a keypoint here. No chessplayer whithout special interest in computerchess will buy two or three chessprogram within a year, if it is very different or not. Also when he first have bought a playingprogram he will most probably stick with it and upgrade it when there have been enough changes. For Fritz etc. I would guess a Fritz 5.32 user could look for a new version, if not the playchess thing have appeal, then you could stretch back to a Fritz 6 user. The highest potensial would be with firsttime buyers, or them who upgrade their PC so they can't play with their dos-program anymore. I have bought very few playing program from ChessBase and when I should buy one last time my choice landed on Shredder 6. The only reason for my choice was that I could plug it into Chess Assistant. Else I only wanted a program based on Fritz 7. I get some mail throughout the year where people ask for advice before buying a chessprogram, only once I have heard any mention of engine-engine strength. This was when Shredder had won the WC in London (2000). Else I don't think many even know about SSDF-list or other rating list for computer. >If you run under that interface, it's only Fritz that counts. The rest is >peanuts. > >Then if you play a match fritz versus your engine, things are not done sportive; >there are protocol issues which cause for some weird reason each new version >that your program has a disadvantage. I do not say this is done deliberately (i >would get sued otherwise for saying that) but it sure has its effect. The effect >is you just get nailed for whatever reason. > >That already is enough reason to not release your engine in a protocol that >chessbase can read. > Again your main concern is engine-engine matches, so now I agree that your only selling potensial are the so called 'nerds'. Odd Gunnar
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