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Subject: Re: Test Position

Author: Yar

Date: 09:19:42 04/29/04

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Hello Joachim !

d6 rxe5 d7 is not the best moves.
The moves here are:
d6! qg5! kf1 rb1+ ke2 qh5+ kd3 qxe5 d7 qb5+ kc3 qc6+ and black has no more then
perp check.

I asked my friend yesterday to run Shredder 8 on a very fast comp for several
hours for this position (2xOpteron 246 2Gb with 1Gb hash table). After 10+ hours
Shredder was able to find this line:

Shredder 8: -0,04 depth=26/26 d6 qg5 kf1 rb1+ ke2 qh5+ kd3 qxe5 d7 qb5+ kc3 qc6+
nc4 qf6+ kc2 qf5+ kc3 qf6+ kc3 qf6+ kc2 =

Position above was created from this position:

[D]5qk1/p6p/1p4p1/4P1Q1/3P3P/8/P4P2/2r2NK1 b - - 0 1

When i found re1! i was sure that black will win (.. re1 h5 re2 qh4 qxh5)
But later i discovered that re1 qd2 rb1 kg2 qd8 d5 rb5 ne3 qxh4 d6 is a draw
(after d5 we have position that i posted above)

Can your engine find re1 qd2 rb1 ?

On April 29, 2004 at 04:47:09, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On April 29, 2004 at 02:10:15, Yar wrote:
>
>>Hi !
>>
>>I discovered this postion yestersay during endgame analisys.
>>
>>Can your engine find d6! with a draw score ?
>>
>>[D] 6k1/p6p/1p4p1/1r1PP3/7q/4N3/P2Q1PK1/8 w - - 0 6
>>
>>With best regards,
>>
>>Yar
>
>Hi Yar,
>
>indeed a very good and tough testposition. I tried Shreder 8 but only after I
>got through the first moves 1.d6 Rxe5 2. d7 he began to realize that black has
>not more than a draw. I think Shredder 8 needs at least an hour on my machine to
>find the move. Do you know engines which find the move rather quickly?
>
>regards Joachim



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