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Subject: Re: What's a boring playing style to get draws vs best engines?

Author: Pablo Rodriguez

Date: 12:04:11 04/29/04

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On April 29, 2004 at 14:47:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>The so called "boring" playing style can be applied by following the rules
>stated below, but I'm warning you. Such games are indeed very very boring and
>not only strong players may ruine their style:
>
>1) never play for a win, even if the own position is slightly better
>2) avoid time trouble (most important)
>3) style: quiet, cautious, prophylactical (very important) but not passive
>  (important)
>4) positional: proper pawn structure, control open lines, try to get statically
>   balanced positions and avoid dynamically balanced positions, avoid whenever
>   possible pawn majorities

   If you play a few games versus junior 8 or djunior 8.zx you know this is
clearly impossible since the program always goes for unbalanced positions.

>5) trade (all) pieces - in particular the queens - whenever this is possible
>   without giving the slightest advantage to the opponent

  I agree, this strategy has being used in the last years by strong gms versus
computers. Super GM Vladimir Kramnik used it several times in his match vs fritz
in 2002, and was a full success.


>5) avoid tactics and unclear lines

 Avoid unclear lines: this is difficult, but with proper training in the opening
i don't see why this isn't working.

 Avoid tactics: you just can't avoid tactics, but you can avoid heavy tactics
which is quite different. First time Kramnik went into tactics vs fritz was
demolished by the computer when he sacrificed a knight for compensation. He
couldn't find it, and which is more lost because fritz defended perfectly.
However, Kramnik showed even world champions can make miserable failures or
blunders, and hunged a knight in game 6.

>7) go for endgames with bishops of opposite colours (in particular with
>   a pawn down)
>6) choose suitable playing level [at least 120'/60, better 120'/40] and
>   avoid blitz games

  Of course humans don't have a chance vs strong computers at blitz. As i read
in certain interview, Garry Kasparov was able to score near 50% vs Junior 7 on
5' + 2'', but since this program is old i think he wouldn't score more than 30%
vs ssdf nÂș1 shredder 8, and remember he is one of the best blitz players in the
world, if not the best.
>
>On the other hand I can assure you that even 1900-2000 Elo rated human players
>will be able to get a score of 25 % to 30 % against all top engines.

 No way! a 2000 elo would not do more than 10% against a computer, even at
classical time controls. Of course, this is my opinion...

                                             Pablo
>
>Kurt & Rolf Chess: http://www.utzingerkurt.com



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