Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:48:03 04/29/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 17:30:37, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 11:28:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote: >>> >>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest. So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying? >>>> >>>>amazing! there is one buyer :) >>>> >>>>>I have my credit card ready? I can even send a postal order, or cheque! >>>> >>>>wow!! >>>> >>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff! >>>> >>>>not sure why?! but to each his own. >>>> >>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain >>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it? >>> >>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >> >>That is a red flag. If Shredder is the _only_ engine that beats you in your >>tests, I'd personally be very concerned that my testing is badly flawed. > >>IE if you can consistently beat fritz, > >Where did I say that? 1. Before the last WCCC. You posted here "Falcon has a positive score against all commercial engines." 2. In this thread: Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. Or are you going to play the semantic game of "I didn't say I beat them, I just said I could score 50% against them, no more." Your implication is pretty clear. But your previous statements were much more direct... None of this matters to me. If I read here, _everybody_ can beat Crafty. In endgames. In the middlegame. In the opening as its book sucks. Fortunately I get to play in the occasional tournament and end up doing reasonably. At least far better than predicted based on how badly I lose every basement match that is played. I don't claim to be better or worse than anyone. I just show up and play and if I do poorly, I do poorly, if I do well, I do well. If more would follow that approach, there would be much less hyperbole, and acrimony... I like the idea of "walk softly and carry a big stick" rather than "writing checks my program can't cash." So I don't make predictions or claims. I just play. Every day on ICC... Anybody can watch my program, play it, beat it, or get beaten by it... all without any comments by me... > > >>you are doing something nobody else (except >>perhaps shredder) is doing... >> >> >> >> >>> >>>With that in mind, Diep's victory against Shredder is even more remarkable. Diep >>>might have also scored against Hydra, had Erdogan's book hadn't knocked out Diep >>>already in the opening stage. >>> >>>With a good book Diep might even pull off some surprises in the upcoming WCCC in >>>Israel, especially since it is not running on a massive parallel dinosaur that >>>apparently did it more harm than benefit in Graz. >>> >>> >>>>save you money and get crafty, you'll feel better afterwards :) >>> >>>Crafty is a great engine, and it is free. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't >>>be interested in other grandmaster-strength programs.
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