Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:46:18 04/30/04
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On April 30, 2004 at 07:14:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 30, 2004 at 03:54:11, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 23:51:17, Dave Gomboc wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>> >>>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >>> >>>Shredder is strong, of course, but I don't understand why people tend to >>>overlook Fritz. Fritz is also strong! I think both Amir and Stefan have >>>pointed out in the past that Frans often doesn't get the credit he deserves for >>>a great engine. >> >>For several years Junior, Fritz, and Shredder were all leading the pack, with >>Junior usually being ahead. But since Shredder 8 there seems to be a gap between >>Shredder and the other two. I'm sure the authors of Fritz and Junior have also >>sped up their efforts towards the WCCC, so we expect to see a very interesting >>fight there. >> > >Fritz definitely has never done real bad. But after 1995 it never was the best. >It really was Shredder that dominated. Junior impressed by good tournament >performances, not at home. At home i only see horror&co from Junior, but they do >well at tournaments. Managed to beat DIEP somehow again in world champs 2003. > >We can argue about shredder versus junior, but both have several world titles. > >Fritz never was as an engine the best. It always was at some distance. In world >champs 2003 i definitely feel Junior&Fritz were at the same level, but it was >the Kure book there that really impressed. Fritz scored full points based upon >Kure. Kure's work i see as more significant as that from Frans. Nevertheless it >is clear Fritz continuesly progressed. > >However the progress from Shredder to shredder 7.04/8 is clear. It is a huge >step forward and no one managed to follow that jump in 2003. In 2004 others must >proof they also have made a jump forward. > >I feel DIEP has made some big jumps now, but of course i still had to make up >for more than others. Going from #5 a number of places up the ladder is already >real hard work. > >Most do not realize how much chessprograms advance in playing strength each 2 >years. > >Only if you play these programs in the few tournaments they join, you know it. > >The level at cct previous time i can only laugh for. Easy to laugh when you don't participate. Should you decide to participate in one, I doubt you'll be laughing much... > >>>Dave
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