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Subject: Re: computers no match for strongest CC players.

Author: William Penn

Date: 09:53:15 04/30/04

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On April 29, 2004 at 11:26:51, martin fierz wrote:

>On April 27, 2004 at 08:58:03, William Penn wrote:
>
>>On April 26, 2004 at 04:23:09, Angelo Ciavarella wrote:
>>
>>>An article dated Feb.19,2004 at
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/correspondence_chess, states that computers are no
>>>match for the strongest CC players if left to play a complete game.The current
>>>champion has not lost a single game playing white in 40 years!!
>>>Angelo
>>
>>My personal crude estimate is that the top chess programs can only manage an Elo
>>rating of about 2450 on the ICCF scale, if allowed about 4 hours to calculate
>>each move on a 2GHz processor. To put it another way, players rated above 2450
>>ICCF are probably using some human brain power. Please don't confuse the name of
>>the processor with the ratings; the similarity is purely coincidental... :)
>>WP
>
>i don't believe a word of this. i have an ICCF rating of 2378 which i achieved
>by playing a few games in switzerland around '99 or 2000. the games were of very
>poor quality, as i used to come home late, turn on my old computer at that time,
>start chessbase with fritz4 or so, and quickly hack away my moves within a
>minute or so.
>i'd say most of my OTB games are better than these correspondence games, at
>least as far as strategy goes - of course there are no horrible blunders in the
>correspondence games.
>i think the computers are doing quite well against nickel up to now, they will
>get more than a 2450 rating out of those games...
>
>cheers
>  martin

Ratings are relative... :)

I don't know the exact dates of Fritz versions, but your Fritz 4 in 1999 was
probably one of the better available softwares at that time. So a 2378 rating
for a few games sounds OK. Now, both you and opponents will be using stronger
software, but the ratings are still relative. If you could have used a current
program such as Fritz 8 back in 1999, perhaps you could have achieved over 2450
rating. Now, I doubt it, because your opponents have Fritz 8 too. However
there's nothing magic about the 2450 number, which is just my best educated
guesstimate.
WP



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