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Subject: Re: KRBKNN ... and KRNKNN

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:36:32 04/30/04

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On April 30, 2004 at 14:26:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 30, 2004 at 04:52:48, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2004 at 10:32:45, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 29, 2004 at 09:02:39, Victor Zakharov wrote:
>>>
>>>>>What do you think about the 50 move rule in computer chess, Guy? Any chances to
>>>>>modify it for computer games?
>>>>>
>>>>>Helmut
>>>>
>>>>My opinion that rules will be fixed one day when tablebases will be more common.
>>>
>>>A 25 move rule would be more approriated indeed as the 50 move rule.
>>>50 moves is just too long knowing that it just causes forfeits at the internet
>>>online chess player. Other uses the 50 move rule doesn't really have.
>>>
>>>Shortly FIDE had extended it to 75 moves, but that was changed back soon
>>>afterwards to 50 moves again.
>>>
>>>I doubt they will ever change it.
>>>
>>>If they change it, it will be 25 moves sooner than 75 moves. I'm 100% convinced
>>>on that.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Vincent
>>
>>25 moves is too short. It would become a factor in too many otherwise easily won
>>endings that the defending side would normally resign.
>
>Do you actually play FIDE rated games sometimes?
>
>I have a few times played 50 moves against an opponent who wanted to win a drawn
>endgame. Like KRN KR recently against a strong polish IM.
>
>One time i played KQP KQ in a game lasting 135 moves before i drew it.
>
>That last game took nearly 7 hours. Did you ever play such a long time to say so
>cheaply that it must be 150 moves instead of 25?
>
>I remember how Victor Korchnoi played on and on in a drawn position, but it was
>not a very clear position yet. Until i blundered and he won. He shuffled also
>for a move or 30 before i got tired and made a mistake.
>
>So that game lasted 7 hours.
>
>It was not nice.

The target of the game is to win.
There is nothing wrong with playing drawn position or even inferior positions in
the hope that the opponent is going to go wrong.

There is something wrong in complaining about it.


>
>Jeroen Piket asked him after the game why he had played on that long.
>
>The analysis with Korchnoi was also very poor. He forced me in the analysis to
>play 3 very idiotic moves to then in a completely unimportant position show win
>after win for him (of course that those are there when you play 3 idiot moves
>with 1 side).

Korchnoi cannot force you to play 3 idiotic moves.

Players are responsible to the moves that they make and not to the moves of the
opponent.



 Of course any try from the many reporters who intervened (about 30
>people were around the board when analysing) resulted in a 'brilliant' win for
>Victor.
>
>After that game i had very little respect for the man.

I see
You have no respect to people who win against you.

people need to lose against you in order to convince you to have respect for
them.

Uri



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