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Subject: Re: Diep and Falcon #2 and 3

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 21:11:32 04/30/04

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On April 30, 2004 at 23:57:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 30, 2004 at 23:54:12, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2004 at 23:48:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2004 at 23:32:02, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 30, 2004 at 23:23:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 30, 2004 at 22:44:40, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diep is now in the #3 programs
>>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362447
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And Falcon is a Grandmaster strength program about 2700 ELO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And assuming "Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50%
>>>>>>against Falcon in my tests"
>>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362348 we can therefore assume
>>>>>>it's #2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That leaves Shredder 8 at #1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lucky both the #2 and #3 program are neither for sale or available else some may
>>>>>>even report they are #1 ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would suggest to both programmers that they get a good team of beta testers
>>>>>>and start posting game scores and results that would be deemed realistic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You know, of course, that you have now entered a world known as "The Twilight
>>>>>Zone"?  Where fact is fiction, fiction is fact, truth is false, imagination is
>>>>>reality, all the other Rod Serling stuff...
>>>>
>>>>Mmmmm, your rol is very important here too: you must be the screenplay writer of
>>>>the production. How many actors will you include in your screenplay? When will
>>>>you return from your twilight zone?
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't live in the twilight zone.  I don't claim to be in the top three unless
>>>we talk open hardware where I have a chance.  I don't claim to beat all
>>>commercial programs in private tests.  I don't claim to have the best eval, the
>>>best search, etc...
>>
>>Finally, I understand: you will simplify some scripts of the screenplay with
>>quick solutions. I thought that you had more imagination.
>
>That's where we differ.  This is _not_ about imagination.  It is about
>reality...  At least in my case, apparently not in some "others"...
>

Not really. I prefer not to say on that topic. However, I would not dare to say
any similar declaration as all the thread below without facts. For o against,
all the thread is imprudent. I can only say that in ICT4, the Diep book was
decisive in three games but it failed in two games: Hydra and Nexus games. Of
course, those holes were already solved.





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