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Subject: Re: Diep and Falcon #2 and 3

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 23:07:19 04/30/04

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On May 01, 2004 at 01:44:38, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 01, 2004 at 01:07:33, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On May 01, 2004 at 00:58:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2004 at 22:44:40, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Diep is now in the #3 programs
>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362447
>>>>
>>>>And Falcon is a Grandmaster strength program about 2700 ELO.
>>>>
>>>>And assuming "Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50%
>>>>against Falcon in my tests"
>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362348 we can therefore assume
>>>>it's #2
>>>>
>>>>That leaves Shredder 8 at #1.
>>>>
>>>>Lucky both the #2 and #3 program are neither for sale or available else some may
>>>>even report they are #1 ;-)
>>>>
>>>>I would suggest to both programmers that they get a good team of beta testers
>>>>and start posting game scores and results that would be deemed realistic.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>At least in the case of Falcon the programmer did not claim that it is one of
>>>the top 3 engines.
>>
>>No never claimed that ;-) simply claimed "Shredder 8 is the only engine that
>>consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests"
>>
>>>He used the Fritz8's book for Falcon in his tests and he even did not claim that
>>>in these conditions Falcon is better than Fritz or Junior.
>>
>>Re-read the above.
>>
>>>Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% does not mean
>>>that Deep Fritz8 or Junior8 cannot do it but only that they did not do it in all
>>>of his tests.
>>
>>I think thats a matter of interpretation and I don't read that into it.
>
>There seems to be an implicit assumption that he is testing against other
>professional engines besides Shredder 8.  Has he actually said that?
>
>Perhaps "the others" are Crafty, AnMon, and things of that nature.


No

The other are clearly professional programs.

He already posted in the past that he tested against Junior8 and Fritz(I believe
Fritz8 but I am not sure about that).

The only question is if he tested against the latest versions in all cases(for
example against Deep Fritz8 and not against Fritz8)

Uri



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