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Subject: Re: Is crafty with tablebases the best solver for studies?

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 13:26:43 12/15/98

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On December 12, 1998 at 13:18:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 12, 1998 at 05:45:03, blass uri wrote:
>
>>I read in gambitsoft about 2 programss for solving problems but they did not say
>>if they are the best programs for solving studies(white begins and wins or white
>>begins and do a draw and not  mate in x helpmates in x , or selfmates in x)
>>
>>Is there a test for finding which program is best in solving studies
>>
>>I know that Junior5 is not the best program for this purpose because the
>>underpromotion problem
>>
>>Fritz5 is also not the right program because Ifound that there are studies that
>>it can never solve because it does not analyze moves with no threat.
>>
>>I think that Crafty has not this problem(It analyze moves with no threat to
>>reduced depth but fritz5 does not analyze even to reduced depth moves with no
>>threat).
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>You are asking a question that is almost impossible to answer.  Crafty has
>the following 'plusses':
>
>(1) probes databases in the search, while most programs probe at the root,
>currently (I think Marty probes inside the search in mchess pro...)
>
>(2) no "forward pruning"... I use null-move of course, but I don't throw
>out moves without any search at all.
>
>(3) fairly fast with a fairly decent evaluation that understands many parts
>of the endgame...
>
>It has the following 'minuses':
>
>(1) not as smart as some programs.
>
>(2) not as fast/deep as some programs.
>
>these are offsetting in ways, so it is a "pay your money and take your
>chances.."  :)
>
>Bob

MChess 8 probes the 4 man tablebases dynamically but not the 5 man. The 5 man is
done only at the root.
--
Komputer Korner



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