Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:18:43 05/01/04
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On May 01, 2004 at 05:04:54, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 01, 2004 at 04:33:59, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On May 01, 2004 at 00:58:02, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 30, 2004 at 22:44:40, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Diep is now in the #3 programs >>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362447 >>>> >>>>And Falcon is a Grandmaster strength program about 2700 ELO. >>>> >>>>And assuming "Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% >>>>against Falcon in my tests" >>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362348 we can therefore assume >>>>it's #2 >>>> >>>>That leaves Shredder 8 at #1. >>>> >>>>Lucky both the #2 and #3 program are neither for sale or available else some may >>>>even report they are #1 ;-) >>>> >>>>I would suggest to both programmers that they get a good team of beta testers >>>>and start posting game scores and results that would be deemed realistic. >>>> >>>>Sarah. >>> >>>At least in the case of Falcon the programmer did not claim that it is one of >>>the top 3 engines. >>> >>>He used the Fritz8's book for Falcon in his tests and he even did not claim that >>>in these conditions Falcon is better than Fritz or Junior. >>> >>>Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% does not mean >>>that Deep Fritz8 or Junior8 cannot do it but only that they did not do it in all >>>of his tests. >> >>"Consistently" is not a mathematical word :) >> >>So it depends how you read "winning consistently", it could mean just winning on >>average, or it could mean it wins all the time ie. never losing or even drawing. >> >>I think the latter is too strong, ie. if you have the match results >>60-40, 55-45, 89-11, 48-52, 61-39.... >> >>I'd still say one engine here is winning consistently, ie. it is who wins on >>average that is the most obvious interpretation. > > >see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362354 >winning consistently means that usually Shredder win a match of 4 games. > >Of course it is not well defined and the question how you read usually but I >will say that it means more than 50% of the matches. > >If Fritz wins 40% of the matchs of 4 games when Falcon wins 30% >of these matchs then Fritz does not beat Falcon consistently inspite of the fact >that it is slightly better by that definition > >Uri One definition of consistent is > 50%. But this semantic nonsense doesn't apply here. The meaning of the statement is obvious to anyone that actually _wants_ to understand it...
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