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Subject: Re: Two Test Positions = Queen and Pawn Endings

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 14:33:34 05/01/04

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On May 01, 2004 at 17:05:27, J. Wesley Cleveland wrote:

>On April 30, 2004 at 23:43:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2004 at 17:21:34, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>>
>>> [D]7k/6p1/2P3Qp/p3q2P/8/6P1/5K2/8 w
>>> Bogoljubow vs Stahlberg, Kemeri 1933  1. Qc2!! Qxh5 2. Qc4!
>>
>>This one takes crafty depth=16, not real quick.  Almost 4 minutes to pick Qc2,
>>several more to see how good it really is...
>>
>[snip]
>While looking at this with crafty, I found the ugliest fail high I've seen with
>crafty.
>
>[D]2q4k/6p1/2P4p/p7/2Q5/6P1/6K1/8 w - - 0 4
>
>hash table memory =   96M bytes.
>pawn hash table memory =    6M bytes.
>
>Crafty v19.10
>
>White(1): sd 11
>search depth set to 11.
>White(1): 2q4k/6p1/2P4p/p7/2Q5/6P1/6K1/8 w - - 0 4
>White(1): analyze
>Analyze Mode: type "exit" to terminate.
>end-game phase
>              clearing hash tables
>              time surplus   0.00  time limit 22.50 (3:30)
>              depth   time  score   variation (1)
>                7->   0.12  -0.14   1. Qb5 Qd8 2. Kf3 Qf8+ 3. Kg4 Qd6 4.
>                                    Kf5 Qc7
>                8     0.18  -0.15   1. Qb5 Qd8 2. Kf3 Qd6 3. Qc4 Qf6+ 4.
>                                    Kg4 g6 5. Qd5
>                8     0.46  -0.03   1. Kf3 Qd8 2. Qe4 Qd1+ 3. Kf4 Qd6+
>                                    4. Kf3 Qc7 5. Qd5 <HT>
>                8->   0.48  -0.03   1. Kf3 Qd8 2. Qe4 Qd1+ 3. Kf4 Qd6+
>                                    4. Kf3 Qc7 5. Qd5 <HT>
>                9     0.95  -0.05   1. Kf3 Qf5+ 2. Ke3 Qe5+ 3. Kf3 Qf6+
>                                    4. Ke4 Qe7+ 5. Kf3 Qa3+ 6. Kg2 Qf8
>                                    7. c7 Qa8+ 8. Kf2 Qc8
>                9     1.14   0.01   1. Qd5 a4 2. Qd7 Qa6 3. c7 Qe2+ 4.
>                                    Kh3 Qh5+ 5. Kg2 Qe2+
>                9->   1.15   0.01   1. Qd5 a4 2. Qd7 Qa6 3. c7 Qe2+ 4.
>                                    Kh3 Qh5+ 5. Kg2 Qe2+
>               10     1.28   0.01   1. Qd5 a4 2. Qd7 Qa6 3. c7 Qe2+ 4.
>                                    Kh3 Qh5+ 5. Kg2 Qe2+
>               10     1.87     ++   1. c7!!
>               10    17:13   1.45   1. c7 Qb7+ 2. Kh2 Qc8 3. Qc5 Kh7 4.
>                                    g4 Kh8 5. Qxa5 <HT>
>               10->  17:13   1.45   1. c7 Qb7+ 2. Kh2 Qc8 3. Qc5 Kh7 4.
>                                    g4 Kh8 5. Qxa5 <HT>
>               11    17:14     ++   1. c7!!
>               11    17:15   5.72   1. c7 Qb7+ 2. Kh2 Qc8 3. Qc5 Kh7 4.
>                                    g4 a4 5. Qf5+ Qxf5 6. gxf5 a3 7. c8=Q
>                                    a2 8. Qc3
>               11->  17:15   5.72   1. c7 Qb7+ 2. Kh2 Qc8 3. Qc5 Kh7 4.
>                                    g4 a4 5. Qf5+ Qxf5 6. gxf5 a3 7. c8=Q
>                                    a2 8. Qc3
>              time=17:15  cpu=88%  mat=-1  n=1791242494  fh=99%  nps=1.73M
>              ext-> chk=381633369 cap=48652 pp=55417 1rep=27688883 mate=994
>              predicted=0  nodes=1791242494  evals=48417627
>              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
>              hashing-> 65%(raw) 64%(depth)  99%(sat)  99%(pawn)
>              hashing-> 0%(exact)  56%(lower)  1%(upper)


Shredder think it's a draw after 1.c7, some pertpetual missed to crafty I think.
Could you let crafty think a little longer ? I'm about sure you will see the
"ugliest fail low you've seen with crafty" ;)


2q4k/2P3p1/7p/p7/2Q5/6P1/6K1/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 8:
...
1...a4 2.Rf2 a3 3.Df7 a2 4.Dxa2 Dxc7
  ³  (-0.49)   Profondeur: 8/23   00:00:00  35kN, tb=19
1...a4 2.Dc5 a3 3.Da7 Df5 4.Db8+ Df8 5.Dxf8+ Rh7 6.c8D
  =  (-0.24)   Profondeur: 9/27   00:00:01  89kN, tb=58
1...a4 2.Dc5 Db7+ 3.Rf2 Dc8 4.De7 Df5+ 5.Re3 Dc5+ 6.Dxc5 Rh7 7.c8D
  =  (0.25)   Profondeur: 9/27   00:00:01  106kN, tb=58
1...a4 2.Dc5 Rh7 3.Da7 Dd7 4.Db8 Dd5+ 5.Rf2 Dd2+ 6.Rg1 Dd1+ 7.Rg2 Dc2+ 8.Rf3
Dd3+ 9.Rf2 Dd2+ 10.Rg1 Dd1+ 11.Rg2 Dc2+ 12.Rf3 Dd3+ 13.Rf2 Dd2+ 14.Rg1
  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 10/26   00:00:01  212kN, tb=92
1...a4 2.Dc5 Rh7 3.Da7 Dd7 4.Dc5 a3 5.c8D Dd5+ 6.Dxd5
  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 10/26   00:00:01  220kN, tb=92
1...a4 2.Dc5 Rh7 3.Db6 Df5 4.Db7 Dc2+ 5.Rf1 Dd3+ 6.Rg1 Dxg3+ 7.Dg2 Dxc7 8.Dc2+
Dxc2
  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 11/27   00:00:01  293kN, tb=121
1...a4 2.Dc5 Rh7 3.De7 Db7+ 4.Rh2 a3 5.Dd8 a2 6.Dd3+ Rh8 7.Dd8+ Rh7 8.Dd3+ Rh8
9.Dd8+ Rh7 10.Dd3+
  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 12/31   00:00:02  528kN, tb=166
1...a4 2.Dc6 h5 3.Rh2 h4 4.gxh4 Rh7 5.Dc3 Dh3+ 6.Dxh3 g6 7.c8D
  ²  (0.28)   Profondeur: 13/31   00:00:04  1273kN, tb=328
1...a4 2.Dc6 h5 3.Rh2 h4 4.gxh4 Rh7 5.Dd6 a3 6.Dd8 Db8 7.cxb8D
  ±  (0.78)   Profondeur: 13/31   00:00:04  1318kN, tb=331
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Dd6 Rh7 4.Dd3+ g6 5.Dd8 Db7+ 6.Rh2 Db2+ 7.Rh3 a2 8.c8T Dg7
9.Dh8+ Dxh8 10.Tc7+ Dg7
  ±  (0.78)   Profondeur: 13/33   00:00:05  1576kN, tb=404
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Dd6 Rh7 4.Dd3+ g6 5.Dd8 Db7+ 6.Rh2 Db2+ 7.Rh3 a2 8.c8T Dg7
9.Dh8+ Dxh8 10.Txh8+ Rxh8 11.Rg2 a1D
  ²  (0.53)   Profondeur: 14/32   00:00:07  2407kN, tb=593
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Dd6 Rh7 4.Dd3+ g6 5.Dd8 Db7+ 6.Rh2 Db2+ 7.Rh3 a2 8.c8D Dg7
9.De6 a1D 10.Dde8
  =  (0.14)   Profondeur: 14/35   00:00:07  2768kN, tb=670
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Db6 Dg4 4.Df2 Dc8 5.Db6 Dg4 6.Df2 Dc8 7.Db6 Dg4
  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 15/41   00:00:11  4364kN, tb=1059
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Db6 Rh7 4.Db1+ g6 5.Db8 Da6 6.c8D De2+ 7.Rg1 Dd1+ 8.Rg2 De2+
9.Rg1 Dd1+ 10.Rg2 De2+ 11.Rg1
  =  (-0.03)   Profondeur: 16/42   00:00:14  5841kN, tb=1657
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Db6 Rh7 4.Db1+ g6 5.Db8 Da6 6.c8D De2+ 7.Rg1 Dd1+ 8.Rg2 De2+
9.Rg1 Dd1+ 10.Rg2 De2+ 11.Rg1
  =  (-0.03)   Profondeur: 17/43   00:00:17  7289kN, tb=2171
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Db6 Rh7 4.Db1+ g6 5.Db8 Da6 6.c8D De2+ 7.Rg1 Dd1+ 8.Rg2 De2+
9.Rg1 Dd1+ 10.Rg2 De2+ 11.Rg1
  =  (-0.03)   Profondeur: 18/45   00:00:22  9908kN, tb=2989
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Db6 Rh7 4.Db1+ g6 5.Db8 Da6 6.c8D De2+ 7.Rg1 Dd1+ 8.Rg2 De2+
9.Rg1 Dd1+ 10.Rg2 De2+ 11.Rg1
  =  (-0.03)   Profondeur: 19/47   00:00:33  14922kN, tb=4351
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Db6 Rh7 4.Db1+ g6 5.Db8 Da6 6.c8D De2+ 7.Rg1 Dd1+ 8.Rg2 De2+
9.Rg1 Dd1+ 10.Rg2 De2+ 11.Rg1
  =  (-0.03)   Profondeur: 20/49   00:00:54  23476kN, tb=6801
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Dd6 Rh7 4.Dd3+ g6 5.Dc4 Rg7 6.Dc3+ Rh7 7.Dc4 Rg7 8.Dc3+ Rh7
9.Dc4 Rg7
  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 21/53   00:02:49  84664kN, tb=13084
1...a4 2.Dc6 a3 3.Dd6 Rh7 4.Dd3+ g6 5.Dc4 h5 6.Df7+ Rh6 7.Df4+ Rg7 8.Dd4+ Rh7
9.Dd8 Db7+ 10.Rh2 Db2+ 11.Rh3 a2 12.c8D Dg7 13.Da8 a1D 14.Dxa1 Df6
  =  (-0.01)   Profondeur: 22/53   00:04:58  151770kN, tb=21082



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