Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 18:44:05 05/02/04
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On May 02, 2004 at 21:03:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 02, 2004 at 19:36:13, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > >>On May 02, 2004 at 18:49:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 02, 2004 at 18:23:44, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>> >>>>On May 02, 2004 at 13:12:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>He sent me an email trying to justify his poor performance. He first claimed >>>>>that it was an artifact of null-move. Testing disproved that. >>>> >>>>What testing? >>>> >>>>-- >>>>GCP >>> >>> >>>The testing you and I both did. It showed a minimal speedup difference if you >>>recall. 2.8 vs 3.1... not _that_ significant... >> >>For 4 processors, it looks small (I don't happen to agree an 11% speed >>decrease is 'not significant' - I would be very happy which such a speedup). >>But it's not that easy to get that 0.3 back. The real problem is that >>scalability is reduced, and there are consequences at 8 or 16 cpus. > >I don't see any at 8. I don't personally have access to a 16-way box yet so I >can't say anything there. But there is nothing that really makes null-move hurt >parallel search... > > >> >>As far as I'm concernced, the testing showed that Vincent was right and >>that recursive nullmove *does* change things. You were firmly claiming >>that it didn't matter a thing, before. So your recollection of whose >>claims were disproven is certainly a bit selective, to say the least. > > >No. You have always had a selective memory when it comes to Vincent. His claim >was that null-move made a _huge_ difference... going from 2.8 to 3.1 is _not_ a >huge difference on 4 cpus. It is a difference. But it is within the noise >range for non-deterministic behavior anyway... > >That was a red herring from the get-go... I fear he cant know the meaning of the term "artefact". Perhaps that caused confusion. > > > > >> >>-- >>GCP
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