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Subject: Re: Let's talk about fraud.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:54:44 05/03/04

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On May 03, 2004 at 12:24:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On May 03, 2004 at 12:14:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On May 03, 2004 at 12:09:50, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
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>>>On May 03, 2004 at 11:14:59, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
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>>>>On May 03, 2004 at 03:47:41, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
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>>>>>On May 03, 2004 at 01:50:44, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
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>>>>>>On May 02, 2004 at 21:03:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>>>>>But it is within the noise
>>>>>>>range for non-deterministic behavior anyway...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I showed that the difference was statistically
>>>>>>significant, so that argument holds no water.
>>>>>
>>>>>Statistical significance isn't simply a little calculation, you must also care
>>>>>about the correct statistical setup; how can you believe that you could
>>>>>contradict the noice theory for non-deterministic behavior with a little math
>>>>>calcul? Please tell us exactly what you did under what conditions and then what
>>>>>you've found. Step by step so that we could follow.
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>>>>don't quote nonsense. hyatt shows 1 or 2 positions and very seldom 3 or 5
>>>>positions to proof something and then claims 3.1 speedup out of 4.
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>>>>any test done so far over a lot of positions by anyone else than hyatt using his
>>>>own program, even at his own machine, shows way less than 3.1.
>>>>
>>>>2.8 in fact.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone denying statistical significance for measuring speedups has a hole in his
>>>>head.
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>>>I have exactly 5 holes in my head. Now let's count the significance. I deny it.
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>>I have seven (you do have eyes, right?)
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>>Unfortunately, evidence suggests that Vincent does have us beat here...
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>So, you are saying that Vincent has only one single hole open in his head? Let
>me guess: his mouth? That would be world record. All senses well shut off from
>reality. :)
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Pretty perceptive.  :)


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