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Subject: Re: Let's talk about fraud.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:53:23 05/03/04

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On May 03, 2004 at 13:35:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On May 03, 2004 at 11:05:25, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 2004 at 09:20:51, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On May 03, 2004 at 02:14:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 02, 2004 at 18:49:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 02, 2004 at 18:23:44, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 02, 2004 at 13:12:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He sent me an email trying to justify his poor performance.  He first claimed
>>>>>>>that it was an artifact of null-move.  Testing disproved that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What testing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>GCP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The testing you and I both did.  It showed a minimal speedup difference if you
>>>>>recall.  2.8 vs 3.1...  not _that_ significant...
>>>>
>>>>2.8 for with nullmove
>>>>3.0 for without nullmove
>>>>
>>>>A major difference. based upon 30+ positions.
>>>>
>>>>And both not *close* to speedup(n) = 1.0 + 0.7(n-1)
>>>
>>>i know nothing about this thread, i know nothing about multiprocessing, but i do
>>>know that the above formula gives 3.1 for n=4.
>>>i don't know about you, but i consider both 2.8 and 3.0 to be "close" to 3.1 -
>>>as a physicist, i tend to think of numbers within 10% as equal ;-)
>>
>>For the default version it is 2.8 and that's far away from 3.1.
>>
>>10% is not 'a little bit'. In computerchess people like Frans Morsch work an
>>entire year for 0.5%.
>
>
>I do not believe you.
>People who work an entire year for 0.5% get less than 1 elo improvement in a
>year.
>
>Fransh morsch gets more than it so he must do something better than that.
>
>Uri

We need a new word.  hyperbolized hyperbole.

That says it all.  Anyone that works for a year to get .5% is an absolute
idiot...




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