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Subject: Re: Let's talk about fraud.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:55:17 05/03/04

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On May 03, 2004 at 13:22:06, Frank Phillips wrote:

>On May 03, 2004 at 09:20:51, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 2004 at 02:14:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 02, 2004 at 18:49:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 02, 2004 at 18:23:44, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 02, 2004 at 13:12:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>He sent me an email trying to justify his poor performance.  He first claimed
>>>>>>that it was an artifact of null-move.  Testing disproved that.
>>>>>
>>>>>What testing?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The testing you and I both did.  It showed a minimal speedup difference if you
>>>>recall.  2.8 vs 3.1...  not _that_ significant...
>>>
>>>2.8 for with nullmove
>>>3.0 for without nullmove
>>>
>>>A major difference. based upon 30+ positions.
>>>
>>>And both not *close* to speedup(n) = 1.0 + 0.7(n-1)
>>
>>i know nothing about this thread, i know nothing about multiprocessing, but i do
>>know that the above formula gives 3.1 for n=4.
>>i don't know about you, but i consider both 2.8 and 3.0 to be "close" to 3.1 -
>>as a physicist, i tend to think of numbers within 10% as equal ;-)
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>
>
>Ah yes, the universal physical constants:
>factor of three,
>factor of 10, and
>+/- 10%
>:-)
>
>10% or 11, 12 .... 30% seems close to me too.  However, I guess that most of the
>comments have little to do with Bob's data or the expected speed up factor for
>multiprocessor machines ;-)


No.  However in another part of this thread, Vincent claims that Frans would
spend an entire year to get a .5% speed improvement in Fritz.  I think I begin
to see why Diep is not ever going to win a tournament.  :)  He's getting farther
behind at .5% per year.  :)




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