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Subject: Re: Diep and Falcon #2 and 3

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:55:32 05/03/04

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On May 03, 2004 at 15:27:35, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On May 03, 2004 at 13:50:51, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On May 01, 2004 at 18:36:17, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2004 at 22:44:40, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Diep is now in the #3 programs
>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362447
>>>>
>>>>And Falcon is a Grandmaster strength program about 2700 ELO.
>>>>
>>>>And assuming "Shredder 8 is the only engine that consistently scores above 50%
>>>>against Falcon in my tests"
>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362348 we can therefore assume
>>>>it's #2
>>>>
>>>>That leaves Shredder 8 at #1.
>>>>
>>>>Lucky both the #2 and #3 program are neither for sale or available else some may
>>>>even report they are #1 ;-)
>>>>
>>>>I would suggest to both programmers that they get a good team of beta testers
>>>>and start posting game scores and results that would be deemed realistic.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>Indeed.
>>>
>>>The top three programs are Shredder, Fritz, and Junior.  If someone wants to
>>>dispute that, they can do it at WCCC '04.
>>
>>WCCC contests name a champion.  But they most definitely do not demonstrate
>>strength ordering of programs.  Only the first and last places have any
>>certainty (due to the swiss format) and the uncertainty level with the tiny
>>number of games played is so high that any of the top 5 could easily be the best
>>program.  In order to produce accurate intermediate place ordering data, you
>>must do a round robin format.
>>
>>That having been said, Shredder is clearly head ans shoulders above all the rest
>>right now.
>
>WCCC is much closer to round-robin than CCT!
>
>Dave


Close only counts in horse-shoes and hand-grenades.

:)



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