Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 03:37:47 05/04/04
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On May 04, 2004 at 05:27:59, Uri Blass wrote: >On May 03, 2004 at 22:59:03, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>I thought I had set 19.12 SE Crafty Standard to plat a game/40 minute match >>against Ruffian 2.0.2 >> >>Wrong _ I had set up Crafty 19.12.SE "Jekyll & Hyatt" (random setting >>personality) and to make it more bizare - Jeykll and Hyatt is leading after 21 >>games. >> >> Engine Score Cr Ru S-B >>1: Crafty 11.5/21 ····················· 0=00=1=00111==1==1=1= 109.25 >>2: Ruffian 2.0.2 9.5/21 1=11=0=11000==0==0=0= ····················· 109.25 >> >>21 of 100 games played >>Name of the tournament: Ruffian Vs Crafty 19.12 Standard G/40 >>Site/ Country: , USA >>Level: Blitz 40/0 >>Hardware: Dual Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1700MHz 1694 MHz >>Operating system: Microsoft Windows 2000 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 >> >>here are the 7 winning settings >> >>pers_load 1 838 464 290 278 91 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 4 111 114 60 93 84 101 46 37 31 >>35 42 30 >>pers_load 1 835 514 307 296 90 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 -22 95 96 60 100 83 97 58 46 52 >>45 33 30 >>pers_load 1 936 466 303 320 106 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 -10 110 76 60 107 82 102 57 58 >>39 49 34 30 >>pers_load 1 964 500 316 290 99 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 6 100 90 60 102 95 96 53 58 49 >>31 57 30 >>pers_load 1 918 482 297 276 103 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 -24 75 91 60 108 83 103 48 46 >>31 53 56 30 >>pers_load 1 813 524 278 319 94 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 28 76 88 60 98 96 95 47 36 48 56 >>36 30 >>pers_load 1 860 458 306 296 95 1 5 1 0 0 0 0 40 -58 123 99 60 96 84 104 47 45 30 >>30 55 30 > >7 winning setting? >Does it mean that Crafty played with different setting in different games? Crafty is played with random settings in all 21 games > >What do the numbers mean. >I can guess that after 1 you have value for pieces in centi-pawns but I am not >sure. Correct - the rest are various crafty parameters. Keeper setting 1==yes, 0==no 0 queen value..........................925 rook value...........................476 bishop value.........................276 knight value.........................318 pawn value...........................99 book random (0=off)............ .....1 book selection width.................5 delay time limit,(0=off:1=on)........1 draw score setting...................0 search depth.........................0 special edition code (1=off:0=on)....0 time usage setting (0=normal)........0 window beta initial setting..........40 king safety asymmetry................20 king safety scale.............. .....99 king safety tropism..................116 lazy setting.........................60 pass pawn scale......................95 pawn block scale............... .....94 pawn scale..................... .... 103 incheck extension setting............58 mate extension setting...............58 one response extension setting.......47 pawn push extension setting..........42 recapture extension setting..........39 start extension setting..............30 > >I guess that the games were played with ponder on. >It may be interesting if you later repeat the experiment but tell Ruffian not to >ponder(Crafty can continue to ponder). I won't have time to that. Perhaps you will. > >I read claims that Ruffian performs worse with pondering and it may be >interesting if pondering is not counter productive for it. > >It is possible that thanks to pondering bug the best setting for Ruffian on dual >PC is to tell it not to ponder. > >If there is no way to tell winboard to tell only one engine to ponder in order >to do it then maybe you can change the source code of Crafty to ignore the easy >command and ponder. I know nothing of any bug and it was released with a bug , "it is what it is". Crafty is ocassionally released with a bug and you see Bob saying don't do this or that -- he fixes it. Best solution is to fix the bug and not tell users - do not use pondering, do not playgames at xx in yy time etc. Fix the bug, (if there is one) is the correct solution. I don't go for the arguments, except for bug "x" , program "y" is the strongest. Most programs have a bug somewhere -- we just don't know about them ;>) and if the programmer does know about them - shame on him for not fixing it. > >Uri
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