Author: martin fierz
Date: 15:38:40 05/04/04
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On May 04, 2004 at 07:25:20, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On May 04, 2004 at 06:24:28, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 04, 2004 at 06:06:34, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >> >>>On May 03, 2004 at 15:07:50, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On May 03, 2004 at 14:18:33, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 03, 2004 at 13:35:38, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>I know you do not believe a thing, especially not things where 10 people are a >>>>>witness from in the dutch computer chess championship. >>>> >>>>I do not believe that these 10 people know what he does. >>>>I do not know what he says but in case that he says that he is working a full >>>>year only to get 0.5% speed imporovement or even 10% speed improvement(I did not >>>>hear it from other people except you) then my assumption is that he gives >>>>disinformation because it does not make sense to do it. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I am not sure of that Uri , I do remember Johan saying that it is getting >>>increasingly tough to improve King. >>>Similarly maybe for fritz - when your engine is so well optimised with author >>>having worked on finetuning it for decades (like fritz) , then the number of >>>possible avenues for improving it , while keeping existing strength intact, will >>>become very tough. >>> >>>So maybe Frans Morch , SMK , Johan , Christoher , etc do find it tough to >>>improve things which should have almost no negetive impact on current >>>performance. >>> >>>Mridul >> >>SMK clearly gets more than 10 elo in a year. >>Same for Frans morch. >> >>I believe that there is a big room for search improvments in chess programs and >>programs search too many illogical lines so it is a big mistake to work on speed >>improvement when it is possible to get more improvement by other means. >> >>Uri > >You are not on a professional level clearly. If you program in assembly and your >program needs just 2000 cycles a node, then 0.5% means saving out 10 cycles >lossless. > >That's independant from search changes and eval improvements. > >It is very hard to save 10 cycles at very well programmed and hand scheduled >assembly code. > >To litterary quote Frans Morsch when someone complained that after some changes >his amateur program was 'only 20%' faster: "Be happy you still can improve so >much, I work for 6 months to get 0.5% faster". ...and you believed that??? cheers martin
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