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Subject: Re: cute position

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 19:35:37 05/05/04

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On May 05, 2004 at 21:50:55, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On May 05, 2004 at 21:42:15, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On May 05, 2004 at 21:37:39, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>On May 05, 2004 at 21:27:03, Will Singleton wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have 7.04.
>>>>
>>>>Will
>>>
>>>
>>>Curious, I just ran the analysis w/ Shredder 7.04 and it found it right away.
>>>Did you use any non-standard settings perhaps? Here is what my 7.04 came up
>>>with:
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 7.04:
>>>
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kg6 3.Bf4 Kg7 4.Be5+ Kg6 5.Bb8
>>>  +-  (5.81)   Depth: 9/9   00:00:00  53kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kg6 3.Bf4 Kg7 4.h5 Kh7 5.Kg3 Kg8 6.Kg4
>>>  +-  (5.93)   Depth: 10/10   00:00:00  74kN
>>>1.Rd8 Kg6 2.Rd5 Kh7 3.h5 Rb6 4.Rd7+ Kg8 5.Rd8+ Kh7 6.Kg4 Rc6
>>>  +-  (5.94)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:00  280kN
>>>1.Rd8 Re1 2.Bd2 Rf1+ 3.Ke2 Rf7 4.Rd6 Kxh4 5.Rh6+ Kg3 6.h4 Re7+ 7.Kd1 Kg2
>>>  +-  (5.94)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:00  379kN
>>>1.Rd8 Re1 2.Bf4 Re7 3.Rd6 Rh7 4.Rd5+ Kg6 5.h5+ Kf7 6.Rd7+ Kg8 7.Rd8+ Kf7 8.Rd2
>>>  +-  (5.95)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:00  770kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kg6 3.h5+ Kh7 4.Bf4 Kg7 5.h6+ Kh7 6.Kg2 Kg8
>>>  +-  (5.96)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:00  803kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kg6 3.h5+ Kh7 4.Kf4 Kg7 5.Be5+ Kg8 6.Kg4 Kf8
>>>  +-  (6.02)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:00  810kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kg6 3.h5+ Kg7 4.h6+ Kxh6 5.Kg4 Kg6 6.Be5 Kh6 7.h4 Kg6
>>>  +-  (6.27)   Depth: 12/17   00:00:00  830kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kg6 5.Kf3 Kf7 6.Bd6 Ke6 7.Bf4
>>>  +-  (6.52)   Depth: 12/17   00:00:00  847kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kf5 5.Kf3 Ke6 6.Bg5 Kf5 7.Bf4 Kg6
>>>  +-  (6.54)   Depth: 13/18   00:00:01  1315kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kf5 5.Kf3 Ke6 6.Bg5 Kf5 7.h4 Kg6 8.Kg4
>>>  +-  (6.49)   Depth: 14/22   00:00:01  1457kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kg6 3.h5+ Kg7 4.h6+ Kxh6 5.Kg4 Kg6 6.Be5 Kf7
>>>  +-  (6.73)   Depth: 15/24   00:00:02  2476kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kf5 5.Kf3 Ke6 6.Bg5 Kf5 7.h4 Kg6 8.Kg4
>>>Kh7 9.h5
>>>  +-  (6.82)   Depth: 16/26   00:00:02  3202kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kh6 5.Kf3 Kg7 6.Kg3 Kf7 7.Bd6 Ke8
>>>  +-  (6.97)   Depth: 17/24   00:00:11  13791kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kf5 5.Kf3 Ke6 6.Bg5 Kf5 7.h4 Ke6
>>>  +-  (6.95)   Depth: 18/28   00:00:24  30811kN
>>>1.Bf4 Rxd6 2.Bxd6 Kxh4 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Be7+ Kf5 5.Kf3 Ke6 6.Bg5 Kf7 7.Kg3 Kg8 8.Kg4
>>>Kh8
>>>  +-  (6.97)   Depth: 19/29   00:00:54  71120kN
>>>
>>>DF8 and DJ8 couldn't find it..
>>
>>Well, that's interesting.  I've found that once a solution is found by Shredder,
>>that I cannot reset it to the original state.  Thereafter, it stores the
>>position somewhere, and remembers the solution.  Perhaps that's what's happening
>>with yours?  Or do you know a way to reset Shredder so it doesn't remember the
>>solution?
>>
>>Will
>
>Good call. Upon first analyzing with Shredder 8 it did find Bf4 and stored it
>into the shredder.plr. I then switched over to S7.04 which used the data S8
>gathered. I renamed shredder.plr and started off fresh with S7.04. It liked Bf4
>only for a moment..

Thanks for the tip on the shredder.plr file.  Finally, I can re-analyze
positions from scratch!  It's probably in the manual, but who reads the manual.

Will



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