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Subject: Re: Question to Moderators...

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 20:39:24 05/05/04

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On May 05, 2004 at 20:31:28, steven blincoe wrote:

>Mike
>
>>We do give more leeway to programmers with Bob's stature.
>It may not be fair - but its reality,
>
>please understand i am in noway singling Bob out for his comments in particular
>to be honest, Bob, although the one being attacked, in my opinion has behaved
>with a good amount of honor and Dignity
>my question was regarding at what point (if any) is a  thread stopped
>i did after all wait 4 days before i raised the issue
>
>the decision to be more lienient with a particular group of members as opposed
>to the general membership at large...this is made by all 3 moderators in private
>discussion or it is something simply and quielty "understood"?
>i am not asking to make any trouble whatsoever, i simply trying to understand
>how it works here
>i have posted on several other sites,the principal one being the dedicated
>chess computer site from Austria
>several well known experts in the field of  chess computers post on this site
>and i cannot say i remember a different standard being applied to them on what
>they can or cannot post
>
>i also realize then i am probably even now pushing what is tolerated for my
>class of membership.
>
>Steve

It would be nice if the moderating process was a exact science and we could draw
clear and precise rules  what is allowed and what is not and let a computer do
the moderation.  But the moderation process is more art than science and it
involves humans on our side that have limited resource (principally time) and we
generally act more on the official complaint mechanism (email) than somebody
perhaps posting - "hey look at this, they are violating the rules".

On the hand, If I come to the board and see "I need (name your program) access
codes" or "you are a #$(*)#_@ bum" -  I don't need for anyone to file a
complaint as I will be the one that is complaining.

I did see the Bob/Vince thread(s) getting long and I could tell it was a
"Bob/Vince" thing going on. But I was not reading every post - in fact just a
few.  I did notice one thread that had the "fraud" heading.  But during the
whole stretch - the moderators did NOT receive one single complaint via e-mail
regarding the threads or threads and we still have not.  We have received
complaints about other posts during that time - but not one single member
complained about Bob/Vince thread through the official communication channel
that is set up for members to voice their complaints.  And we do have members
that will not hestitate to voice their opinion about an objectionable thread or
post - commercial post, trading engines, using bad language , off topic posts or
threads or even Vince.

Moderating is also a little bit like buying stock.  You ever buy a stock and it
starts going down.  You don't want to sell it and lock in your "loss" - but
everyday it keeps going down and your paper loss is getting bigger and bigger.
Finally it goes down so far and you can't take it anymore and you sell at the
bottom and your paper loss becomes your real loss.  That's how I felt when I
watching the Bob/Vince thread.  I felt that if I posted "Moderation"  late inthe
process - everybody could look at me and say - "well where were you 4 days ago
when it started - it's over now - and you SOLD low ".

So here's to CCC bouncing back up in the next few days.

Best,

Michael







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