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Subject: Re: Strange humans

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 06:54:28 05/06/04

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On May 05, 2004 at 22:37:31, John Merlino wrote:

>On May 05, 2004 at 20:00:05, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>
>>On May 05, 2004 at 18:15:54, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>In the article "Tactics from the Russian Team Champ" on the chessbase site (
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1625 )
>>>We can see this position :
>>>[D]r1r3k1/3n1b2/p1qp3Q/1p2p2p/4P3/1PP1BP2/2P5/1K1R1B2 w - - 0 29
>>>with the comment "29.Bxb5!! ...this clearance sacrifice."; In fact Bxb5 is only
>>>the third best move, Chessmaster 9000 confirms that with the 3 best moves mode :
>>
>> As all moves lead to mate, all moves are the best ones. So i don't think Bxb5
>>deserves a (!!) but only a (!) .
>> Also the below analysis doesn't prove that Bxb5 is not a mate in 6 or 7 for
>>example, so it may be the quickest mate after all.
>
>I have determined with reasonable certainty, from a little bit of poking around
>with lines, that Bxb5 is at most a Mate in 14. There may be a Mate in 13 lurking
>around in there, but no less.
>
>>>
>>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>>4:48	1/13	Mate07	127988483	29.Bh3 Nf6 30.Qxf6 Qe8 31.Bh6 Qf8
>>>					32.Rg1+ Bg6 33.Qxg6+ Kh8 34.Bxf8
>>>					Rxf8 35.Qg7#
>>>4:54	1/13	Mate08	130793582	29.Bc4 Qxc4 30.Rg1+ Bg6 31.Rxg6+
>>>					Kf7 32.Rg7+ Ke8 33.bxc4 Rc7 34.Qxh5+
>>>					Kd8 35.Qh8+ Nf8 36.Qxf8#
>>>5:25	1/13	Mate15	145728017	29.Bxb5 Nf8 30.Rg1+ Bg6 31.Rxg6+
>>>					Nxg6 32.Qxg6+ Kh8 33.Bg5 d5 34.Bxc6
>>>					Rxc6 35.Qxc6 Rf8 36.Qh6+ Kg8 37.Qg6+
>>>					Kh8 38.Qxh5+ Kg8 39.Bh6 Kh7 40.Bxf8+
>>>					Kg8 41.Qh6 Kf7 42.Qg7+ Ke8 43.Qe7#
>
>jm

Hi John

CM9_OffSet finds a mate in 9 in 2 seconds, mate in 8 in 3 seconds, and a mate in
7 in 49 seconds...

btw... congrats on promotion to manager, sounds like yer doin' pretty good :)

P3/850

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	5.30	2567		1.Bxb5 Nf8 2.Bxc6 Rxc6 3.Rxd6
0:00	1/4	6.08	8065		1.Bxb5 Nf8 2.Rg1+ Bg6 3.Bxc6 Rxc6
					4.Rxg6+ Nxg6 5.Qxg6+ Kf8 6.Bh6+
					Ke7 7.Qxh5
0:00	1/5	6.60	47380		1.Bxb5 Nf8 2.Rg1+ Bg6 3.Rxg6+ Nxg6
					4.Qxg6+ Kh8 5.Bxc6 Rxc6 6.Qxh5+
					Kg7 7.c4
0:01	1/5	11.64	176677		1.Bc4 d5 2.Rg1+ Bg6 3.Bxd5+ Qxd5
					4.Rxg6+ Kf7 5.Rg7+ Ke8 6.Qh8+ Nf8
					7.Qxh5+ Ng6 8.Qxg6+ Kf8 9.exd5
0:02	1/5	Mate09	234747		1.Bh3 Bxb3 2.Rg1+ Kf7 3.Rg7+ Ke8
					4.Qxh5+ Kd8 5.Bb6+ Rc7 6.Qh8+ Bg8
					7.Rxg8+ Nf8 8.Rxf8+ Ke7 9.Qg7#
0:03	1/6	Mate08	282905		1.Bh3 Bxb3 2.Rg1+ Kf7 3.Rg7+ Ke8
					4.Qh8+ Nf8 5.Qxh5+ Ng6 6.Qxg6+
					Bf7 7.Qxf7+ Kd8 8.Bg5#
0:03	1/7	Mate08	380156		1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Rg1+ Ng4 3.Bxg4 Qxe4
					4.Bf5+ Qg4 5.Bh7+ Kh8 6.Bg6+ Kg8
					7.Qh7+ Kf8 8.Qxf7#
0:04	1/8	Mate08	504225		1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Rg1+ Ng4 3.Bxg4 Qxe4
					4.Bf5+ Qg4 5.Bh7+ Kh8 6.Bg6+ Kg8
					7.Qh7+ Kf8 8.Qxf7#
0:07	1/9	Mate08	824127		1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Rg1+ Ng4 3.Bxg4 Qxe4
					4.Bf5+ Qg4 5.Bh7+ Kh8 6.Bg6+ Kg8
					7.Qh7+ Kf8 8.Qxf7#
0:12	1/10	Mate08	1591551		1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Rg1+ Ng4 3.Bxg4 Qxe4
					4.Bf5+ Qg4 5.Bh7+ Kh8 6.Bg6+ Kg8
					7.Qh7+ Kf8 8.Qxf7#
0:24	1/11	Mate08	3323751		1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Rg1+ Ng4 3.Bxg4 Qxe4
					4.Bf5+ Qg4 5.Bh7+ Kh8 6.Bg6+ Kg8
					7.Qh7+ Kf8 8.Qxf7#
0:49	1/12	Mate07	6961309		1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Qxf6 Qe8 3.Bh6 Qf8
					4.Rg1+ Bg6 5.Qxg6+ Kh8 6.Bxf8 Rxf8
					7.Qg7#
1:22	1/13	Mate07	12000289	1.Bh3 Nf6 2.Qxf6 Qe8 3.Bh6 Qf8
					4.Rg1+ Bg6 5.Qxg6+ Kh8 6.Bxf8 Rxf8
					7.Qg7#
Dan





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