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Subject: Re: "3.1 comes from running a large number of positions several years ba

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:01:34 05/06/04

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On May 06, 2004 at 16:12:33, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On May 06, 2004 at 12:19:13, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>I hope you don't mean the ones blow.
>>
>>Are you still claiming you 'measured' 3.1 which supposedly contradicts
>>the 2.8 I measured?
>>
>
>Gian-Carlo,
>
>sorry, but what is your point with such chaotical, none deterministic systems?
>If i imagine the chaotical effects even with one processor after some minor
>code/data changes and different processor architectures. If i imagine how
>chaotical multiprocessor systems are, where memory and cache coherency are big
>issues.
>
>Did you exactly the same test with crafty on the same system as Bob?
>Or did you mention your own experience with Deep Sjeng and claim in general with
>multprosser systems smp or numa, speedup with nullmove is less than Bob's
>suggested formula for 1 <= N <= 8:
>
>Nullmove disabled:   1 + (N-1)*0.7
>Nullmove enabled:    1 + (N-1)*0.6
>
>Thanks,
>Gerd


I find this "search for the one true SMP speedup number" for Crafty to be
completely ridiculous.    The idea that there _is_ such a single number is
silly.  Much less all the arguing about "I get 2.8 you got 3.0 or 3.1 so your
numbers are bad."

I've just posted 9 log files from the Opteron.  I have no idea how all the
numbers will look as I have not gone over them yet.  I ran them as I had time on
a good machine and I have plans to write up the Crafty parallel search algorithm
before long and that will need some reliable data.

But just because my linear approximation to a probably non-linear function
varies based on some specific test set really doesn't mean the formula is right,
wrong or anything else...

But it does seem hopeless to explain it over and over as it is just like that
damned energizer rabbit, it keeps going and going and going...




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