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Subject: Re: more brilliant?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:42:31 05/08/04

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On May 08, 2004 at 15:34:20, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:

>On May 08, 2004 at 14:43:26, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2004 at 14:17:00, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On May 08, 2004 at 14:00:39, Will Singleton wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 08, 2004 at 13:38:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 08, 2004 at 13:25:03, Will Singleton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 08, 2004 at 13:14:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 08, 2004 at 11:54:58, Rob Basham wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[D]2r2rk1/p1q1bpp1/1p6/n2R4/8/P4N2/1B2QPPP/5RK1 w - - 0 1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>White plays....Bxg7...!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any programs find this neat move?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>this is taken from the 24 brilliant moves file....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     My beloved Aristarch 4.41 can't find the winning move
>>>>>>>     within reasonable time.
>>>>>>>     Kurt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Aristarch 4.41  UCI1: (P4 1.8/32 MB hash)
>>>>>>> 2-  00:00 -0.42   Bxg7 Kxg7
>>>>>>> 2   00:00 -1.03   Bxg7 Kxg7
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00 -1.02   h4 Bxa3
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00 -0.82   h4 Bxa3
>>>>>>> 2   00:00  0.24   h4 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00  0.25   h3 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2   00:00  0.32   h3 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00  0.33   Qd3 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2   00:00  0.34   Qd3 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00  0.35   Re1 Qc4
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00  0.55   Re1 Qc4
>>>>>>> 2   00:00  0.64   Re1 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00  0.65   Rfd1 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2   00:00  0.69   Rfd1 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2+  00:00  0.70   Rc1 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 2   00:00  0.75   Rc1 Nc4
>>>>>>> 3   00:00  0.82   Rc1 Nc4 a4
>>>>>>> 3+  00:00  0.83   Rfd1 Rfd8 Ng5
>>>>>>> 3   00:00  0.92   Rfd1 Nc4 Rd7
>>>>>>> 3+  00:00  0.93   Re1 Rfd8 Rxd8+ Rxd8 Qxe7
>>>>>>> 3   00:00  1.03   Re1 Rfe8 Qe4
>>>>>>> 4-  00:00  0.61   Re1 Rfe8 Qe4 Bxa3
>>>>>>> 4   00:00  0.52   Re1 Rfe8 Qe3 Nc4
>>>>>>> 4+  00:00  0.53   Rfd1 Nc4 Rd7 Nxa3
>>>>>>> 4+  00:00  0.73   Rfd1 Nc4 Rd7 Nxa3
>>>>>>> 4   00:00  0.79   Rfd1 Rfd8 Qe4 Nc4
>>>>>>> 4+  00:00  0.80   Rc1 Nc4 Nd2 Nxb2
>>>>>>> 4   00:00  0.80   Rc1 Bc5 Qe4 Rfe8
>>>>>>> 5   00:00  0.81   Rc1 Nc4 Ne5 Qb7 Rd7
>>>>>>> 6   00:00  0.67   Rc1 Bc5 Qe4 Nb3 Re1 Rfd8
>>>>>>> 6+  00:00  0.68   Qe4 Nc4 Rc1 Rfd8 Rxd8+ Bxd8 Qe8+ Kh7 Qf8 Bf6
>>>>>>> 6   00:00  0.87   Qe4 Qc2 Qxe7 Nc6 Qg5 Qxb2
>>>>>>> 7   00:00  0.78   Qe4 Qc4 Qf5 Qb3 Rb1 Rcd8 Rb5
>>>>>>> 7+  00:00  0.79   Rc1 Bc5 Qe4 Nb3 Re1 Rfd8 Qf5
>>>>>>> 7   00:01  0.88   Rc1 Qb7 Rcd1 Rfe8 Rd7 Bd6 Ne5 Rxe5
>>>>>>> 8   00:01  0.78   Rc1 Qxc1+ Bxc1 Rxc1+ Ne1 Bxa3 Qe4 Rc4 Qe3 Bc5
>>>>>>> 9   00:03  0.77   Rc1 Qxc1+ Bxc1 Rxc1+ Ne1 Bxa3 Qe4 Nc4 Rh5 Rd8 Qh7+ Kf8 Qe4
>>>>>>> 9+  00:04  0.78   Qe4 Qc2 Qxe7 Nc6 Qd6 Qxb2 Rd2 Rfd8 Qxd8+ Nxd8
>>>>>>> 9   00:05  0.93   Qe4 Qc4 Rd4 Qc2 Qxe7 Nc6 Qe4 Qxb2 Rd6
>>>>>>> 9+  00:08  0.94   Nd2 Rfd8 Qg4 g6 Rxd8+ Qxd8 Ne4 Rc2 Rd1 Rxb2 Rxd8+ Bxd8
>>>>>>> 9   00:09  0.99   Nd2 Bd6 Qg4 Bxh2+ Kh1 f5 Rxf5 Rxf5 Qxf5 Nc4 Nxc4 Qxc4
>>>>>>>10   00:15  1.34   Nd2 Bd6 Ne4 Bxh2+ Kh1 Qc2 Rd2 Qc7 Bxg7 Nc4 Qg4 Nxd2
>>>>>>>11   00:33  1.28   Nd2 Rfd8 Qg4 g6 Qh3 f6 Qe6+ Kf8 Bxf6 Rxd5
>>>>>>>11+  00:40  1.29   Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Qb7 Qg4+ Kh8 Qh5+
>>>>>>>11+  00:42  1.49   Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Qb7 Qg4+ Kh8 Qh5+
>>>>>>>11   00:47  1.66   Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Rfd8
>>>>>>>12   01:00  1.27   Bxg7 Kxg7 Ne5 Rfd8
>>>>>>>12+  01:13  1.28   Nd2 Nc6 Qg4 Bf6 Bxf6 Rfe8
>>>>>>>12   01:30  1.31   Nd2 Nc4 Nxc4
>>>>>>>13   02:59  1.45   Nd2 Rcd8
>>>>>>>14   09:03  1.18   Nd2 Rcd8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Likely because Bxg7 isn't winning?  I don't see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Bxg7 Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8 4. Qf5 f6 5. Nd7+ Rxd7 6. Rxd7 Qe5 7. Qh3
>>>>>>Rc7 *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I let Crafty burn a while and it doesn't like Bg7 particularly either.  It
>>>>>thinks the score after Bg7 is about the same as the score for other moves by
>>>>>white.  I noticed in the PV after Bxg7 that it saw this as two pieces for a rook
>>>>>and pawn, which it will not like much, ever, unless it finds something
>>>>>tactically farther down the line:
>>>>>
>>>>>               11->  23.98   0.65   1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8
>>>>>                                    4. Nd7+ Rxd7 5. Rxd7 Qc3 6. Rxa7 Bxa3
>>>>>                                    7. Qd7 Qc4
>>>>>               12     1:15   0.62   1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8
>>>>>                                    4. Nd7+ Rxd7 5. Rxd7 Qc4 6. Qh3 Qh4
>>>>>                                    7. Qf5 Qf6 8. Qd3
>>>>>               12->   1:19   0.62   1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qg4+ Kf8
>>>>>                                    4. Nd7+ Rxd7 5. Rxd7 Qc4 6. Qh3 Qh4
>>>>>                                    7. Qf5 Qf6 8. Qd3
>>>>>               13     4:17   0.92   1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qh5 Bf6
>>>>>                                    4. Nd7 Rxd7 5. Qg4+ Kf8 6. Rxd7 Qc4
>>>>>                                    7. Qf3 Qc6 8. Qf5
>>>>>               13->   4:37   0.92   1. ... Kxg7 2. Ne5 Rfd8 3. Qh5 Bf6
>>>>>                                    4. Nd7 Rxd7 5. Qg4+ Kf8 6. Rxd7 Qc4
>>>>>                                    7. Qf3 Qc6 8. Qf5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Lil ol Amateur likes Rh5, which could be good.  It doesn't get the right
>>>>continuation, but it's the thought that counts.
>
>Congratulations to Amateur!! Rh5 is the best move as Deep Blue demonstrated it.
>In fact, your line is very similar to Deep Blue's as far as I remember!!
>
>Everybody forgot already???

No
see my post in this thread:
http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?364210

Uri




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